Intermittency is a bigger problem than the Greens thought

techno-ag

11:02a, 5/3/24

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/intermittency-wind-and-solar-could-be-worse-originally-thought-experts-say

Even though we have tripled wind energy capacity since 2010, generation actually dropped a little last year. Why, you ask?

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Renewable energy has an intermittency problem, which is why even though it's cheap while it's producing electricity, it's more expensive than any other form of energy due to all the costs associated with making it reliable. These extra costs include the costs of battery facilities, baseload backup generators, transmission lines and over building of capacity.

However, as the drop in wind generation in 2023 shows, even with wind farms spread out across the U.S., it's still possible that the wind won't be there to turn the turbines. These wind lulls are called wind droughts.

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buzzardb267

11:05a, 5/3/24

Soooo....how much are my taxes going to go up to solve "wind droughts"?

"ROGER - OUT"

techno-ag

11:10a, 5/3/24

In reply to buzzardb267

If only we could somehow harness all that hot air from Washington, amiright?

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- Joe Biden

I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled.

- Kamala Harris

Tramp96

11:11a, 5/3/24

You know what's reliable and cheap?

NewClear

DeSantis 2024

Ag87H2O

11:13a, 5/3/24

Nuclear is the right answer. Build more nuclear plants.

TheCurl84

11:14a, 5/3/24

Listen, even the Aggie who inspired all the jokes could have told these "scientists" that wind is intermittent.

Fatboy Thaddeus

11:26a, 5/3/24

Keen observers have been saying this for years:

But how did "we" (really they) get to this point?

Start with a support base prone to groupthink
add in advanced propaganda from strategic adversaries
throw in a precious _few_ kernels of truth and you get:

-> Ostpolitik (Russia's bid to steer Europe, thankfully on the ropes)
-> Green revolution (
-> decades of mothballed nuclear tech, so that any short-term solutions are now out of reach.

I'll go ahead and be the 20th person on this thread to agree that nuclear is the answer.

Ask yourself 3 questions:
1) Do I live in an echo chamber?
2) Do I spend all my energy barking when I hear a dogwhistle?
3) If this was me, how would I even know?

sleepybeagle

11:30a, 5/3/24

There's a reason most farmers and ranchers have moved away from windmills. They are NOT free and quite costly to maintain.

Unless you need power out in the middle of nowhere or want one for the nostalgia - there is zero cost effective reasons for a windmill.

sleepybeagle

techno-ag

12:07p, 5/3/24

In reply to sleepybeagle

sleepybeagle said:
There's a reason most farmers and ranchers have moved away from windmills. They are NOT free and quite costly to maintain.

Unless you need power out in the middle of nowhere or want one for the nostalgia - there is zero cost effective reasons for a windmill.

Only exception is for water tanks on a float stop. Cow drinks, windmill pumps up more water, float stop cuts off the well. Rinse, repeat.

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- Joe Biden

I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled.

- Kamala Harris

Jack Boyett

12:14p, 5/3/24

There are windmills that shut off on a float? I've never seen that. And why does that make any difference?

Tony Franklins Other Shoe

12:22p, 5/3/24

Dang, I bet if the earth was a couple of degrees warmer, the wind would blow a lot more consistently due to atmospheric temp gradients. Aren't we having larger and more violent storms? This green **** is so hard to keep track of.

Person Not Capable of Pregnancy

We fixed the keg

12:25p, 5/3/24

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However, as the drop in wind generation in 2023 shows, even with wind farms spread out across the U.S., it's still possible that the wind won't be there to turn the turbines. These wind lulls are called wind droughts.

Guess you could always use natural gas or coal to power them in those times of wind drought. Since you get to keep the "feels" of running of windmills.

#IntenseSarcasm

TexAgs91

12:25p, 5/3/24

In reply to techno-ag

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Go woke, get broke.

Go green, lose everything.

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Fatboy Thaddeus

12:43p, 5/3/24

In reply to Jack Boyett

Jack Boyett said:
There are windmills that shut off on a float? I've never seen that. And why does that make any difference?

I think nowadays most people just train their livestock to operate the pumps. So I'd say electric pumps (as well as float controls) are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

Ask yourself 3 questions:
1) Do I live in an echo chamber?
2) Do I spend all my energy barking when I hear a dogwhistle?
3) If this was me, how would I even know?

rocky the dog

12:47p, 5/3/24

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
- Alfred E. Neuman

AggieMD95

2:19p, 5/3/24

Everything woke including green weenyismm turns to crap

techno-ag

4:37p, 5/3/24

In reply to Jack Boyett

Jack Boyett said:
There are windmills that shut off on a float? I've never seen that. And why does that make any difference?

Cattle windmills:

Not power windmills:

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- Joe Biden

I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled.

- Kamala Harris