Wrapping up year 3 without a raise. On one hand happy to have employment, on the other psychologically my want to feels broken most days.
11:13p, 11/3/17
Almost 4 years at current position at it is very disappointing.
1 - x
2 - 1.034x
3 - 1.09x
4 - 1.15x (lateral "promotion") bs if you ask me
I know the increases look alright but keep in mind where I started at. Almost feel like getting a degree was a waste
1 - x
2 - 1.034x
3 - 1.09x
4 - 1.15x (lateral "promotion") bs if you ask me
I know the increases look alright but keep in mind where I started at. Almost feel like getting a degree was a waste
1:47p, 11/4/17
In reply to ktownag08
Great thread! Interesting to go back and see my own post from 2013. Here's my update with just switching companies earlier this year.
2017: 2.03x + 20% bonus (+ sizable off-cycle bonus opportunities, it's a very small company with a generous CEO)
ktownag08 said:
Working for 4 years and only 1.44x where I started on base salary, but I started fairly high. Have good bonus opportunity on top.
Great thread! Interesting to go back and see my own post from 2013. Here's my update with just switching companies earlier this year.
2017: 2.03x + 20% bonus (+ sizable off-cycle bonus opportunities, it's a very small company with a generous CEO)
4:01p, 11/4/17
2014 = X
2015 = 1.04x
2016 = 1.14x
2017 = 1.25x
2017 = 1.61X (new job, consulting to industry)
2015 = 1.04x
2016 = 1.14x
2017 = 1.25x
2017 = 1.61X (new job, consulting to industry)
5:43p, 11/4/17
In reply to Raptor
2014-2017: $18
Raptor said:
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1998: $0
2003: $0
2008: $0
2013: $2
2014-2017: $18
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6:58p, 11/4/17
2008 - $15k
2009-2016 - gradual increases as I moved up
2017 - 78k with a %15 bonus
2009-2016 - gradual increases as I moved up
2017 - 78k with a %15 bonus
All my hope is in Jesus, thank God my yesterday's gone.
7:47p, 11/4/17
In reply to Ragoo
Same here. What industry? O&G here.Ragoo said:
Wrapping up year 3 without a raise. On one hand happy to have employment, on the other psychologically my want to feels broken most days.
7:56p, 11/4/17
In reply to wrinkledink
yepwrinkledink said:Same here. What industry? O&G here.Ragoo said:
Wrapping up year 3 without a raise. On one hand happy to have employment, on the other psychologically my want to feels broken most days.
6:29a, 11/6/17
Human Resource Development major
Business Administration minor >3.0 GPA
Corporate Talent Acquisition
1 - x (DFW) + 5% bonus
1.5 - 1.15x (DFW) + 5% bonus
2 - 1.3x (DFW) + 5% bonus
3 - 2.05x (Austin) + 10% bonus
4 - 1.83x (Austin) + 10% bonus
Year 4 I switched companies and took a pay cut for a higher title (lead) at another company. I got married this year too and my wife also works so that's how I justified the pay cut + opportunity to become a manager in no more than 2 years if everything goes well, which would hopefully put me at 2.15x - 2.2x. She started at slightly higher than my x and still at x for the purpose of this discussion since her raises are negligible.
I really don't have any desire to go above a TA manager so I've been thinking about going into more operational HR after a few years of being a manager. When that happens my wife and I will likely move back to DFW.
Business Administration minor >3.0 GPA
Corporate Talent Acquisition
1 - x (DFW) + 5% bonus
1.5 - 1.15x (DFW) + 5% bonus
2 - 1.3x (DFW) + 5% bonus
3 - 2.05x (Austin) + 10% bonus
4 - 1.83x (Austin) + 10% bonus
Year 4 I switched companies and took a pay cut for a higher title (lead) at another company. I got married this year too and my wife also works so that's how I justified the pay cut + opportunity to become a manager in no more than 2 years if everything goes well, which would hopefully put me at 2.15x - 2.2x. She started at slightly higher than my x and still at x for the purpose of this discussion since her raises are negligible.
I really don't have any desire to go above a TA manager so I've been thinking about going into more operational HR after a few years of being a manager. When that happens my wife and I will likely move back to DFW.
7:37a, 11/6/17
In reply to IrishTxAggie
Update:
June 2016 (New Job) 3.2x +2.5% total sales
July 2017 (New Job w/ huge promotion) 5.3x +3% total sales
Should put me at 8-9x my salary out of college by end of 2018.
IrishTxAggie said:
Poultry Science '09
Jan 2010- x
June 2010- 1.06x
Jan 2011- 1.12x
March 2012- 1.22x
August 2012- 1.25x
August 2013 (New job)- 2.0x
Update:
June 2016 (New Job) 3.2x +2.5% total sales
July 2017 (New Job w/ huge promotion) 5.3x +3% total sales
Should put me at 8-9x my salary out of college by end of 2018.
12:36p, 11/6/17
Agribusiness 2010
2011- $51k after summer internship
2013- $57k plus incentives
Sep. 2013 - Nov. 2015- $24-26k
Nov. 15 to now- $37k
Started out in an accounting job at a coal mine, then struggled for a while after a layoff. I now work at a sugar beet processing facility up in Montana. After two years without a raise or performance review, I plan to relocate to Colorado in the spring.
2011- $51k after summer internship
2013- $57k plus incentives
Sep. 2013 - Nov. 2015- $24-26k
Nov. 15 to now- $37k
Started out in an accounting job at a coal mine, then struggled for a while after a layoff. I now work at a sugar beet processing facility up in Montana. After two years without a raise or performance review, I plan to relocate to Colorado in the spring.
8:04p, 11/6/17
2008 - $40k
2009 - $46k
2010 - $55k
2012 - $59k
2016 - $0 - laid off
2017 - $96k + 10% bonus option - New job
2009 - $46k
2010 - $55k
2012 - $59k
2016 - $0 - laid off
2017 - $96k + 10% bonus option - New job
11:30a, 11/7/17
2012: 45K (jr financial analyst) +10K signing/relo bonus (taxes grossed up on that also)
2013: 50K (financial analyst)
2014: 55/60K (financial analyst)
2015: 70K (Sales and Operations planning manager)
2016: 78K (S&OP manager)
2017: 90K (Financial planning & analysis manager)
Have a non-technical degree. Goal has been to hit $100K by 30 so I have two years to make it. Have stayed with same company entire time. Work 40 hr weeks probably 3/4 weeks a month and maybe one 50-55 hour week a month. Good flexibility and not overly stressful.
2013: 50K (financial analyst)
2014: 55/60K (financial analyst)
2015: 70K (Sales and Operations planning manager)
2016: 78K (S&OP manager)
2017: 90K (Financial planning & analysis manager)
Have a non-technical degree. Goal has been to hit $100K by 30 so I have two years to make it. Have stayed with same company entire time. Work 40 hr weeks probably 3/4 weeks a month and maybe one 50-55 hour week a month. Good flexibility and not overly stressful.
3:28p, 11/7/17
2010: $48k
2011: $53k
2012: $58k
2013: $63k
2014: $72k
2015: $75k
2016: $78k
2017: $100k(company change, 2x title promotion)
Insurance industry on the carrier side. Claims adjuster for 5 years, underwriting for the last 2.5.
I was with the same company until Sept of this year. I was a Psychology major with a strong work ethic and an analytical/inquisitive nature so the industry was a good fit for me. Insurance gets a bad rap but I'd recommend it to any graduates(any major) who aren't 100% certain what they want to do. You'll either like it or hate it but it pays well starting out(carrier side) and the benefits will be as good or better than your peers(4-5 weeks PTO, 401k matches, medical/dental/vision, etc.).
2011: $53k
2012: $58k
2013: $63k
2014: $72k
2015: $75k
2016: $78k
2017: $100k(company change, 2x title promotion)
Insurance industry on the carrier side. Claims adjuster for 5 years, underwriting for the last 2.5.
I was with the same company until Sept of this year. I was a Psychology major with a strong work ethic and an analytical/inquisitive nature so the industry was a good fit for me. Insurance gets a bad rap but I'd recommend it to any graduates(any major) who aren't 100% certain what they want to do. You'll either like it or hate it but it pays well starting out(carrier side) and the benefits will be as good or better than your peers(4-5 weeks PTO, 401k matches, medical/dental/vision, etc.).
3:33p, 11/7/17
In reply to POW
What industry? Location? Company maybe?POW said:
2012: 45K (jr financial analyst) +10K signing/relo bonus (taxes grossed up on that also)
2013: 50K (financial analyst)
2014: 55/60K (financial analyst)
2015: 70K (Sales and Operations planning manager)
2016: 78K (S&OP manager)
2017: 90K (Financial planning & analysis manager)
Have a non-technical degree. Goal has been to hit $100K by 30 so I have two years to make it. Have stayed with same company entire time. Work 40 hr weeks probably 3/4 weeks a month and maybe one 50-55 hour week a month. Good flexibility and not overly stressful.
10:45a, 11/8/17
Environmental, 2014 BS in BMCB
2014: x
2015: 1.06x
2016: 1.78x (1.96x total comp) - consulting to industry
2018: 2.0x (2.5x total comp) - new job, title promotion
2014: x
2015: 1.06x
2016: 1.78x (1.96x total comp) - consulting to industry
2018: 2.0x (2.5x total comp) - new job, title promotion
8:25p, 11/8/17
It's a little depressing seeing some of these salary jumps, but I'll play.
BS in acct 2012, licensed CPA in public accounting
First 3 years in OKC and then moved to Tyler
1- $48k
2- $52k
3- $58k
4-$62k and $3k bonus
5- $67k and $5k bonus
BS in acct 2012, licensed CPA in public accounting
First 3 years in OKC and then moved to Tyler
1- $48k
2- $52k
3- $58k
4-$62k and $3k bonus
5- $67k and $5k bonus
10:45p, 11/8/17
In reply to f burg ag
20x?
Eve if starting at $10k thats a $200k salary...
If self employed or started your own business, I think that'd be worth noting...otherwise, compang? Location? Job?
Eve if starting at $10k thats a $200k salary...
If self employed or started your own business, I think that'd be worth noting...otherwise, compang? Location? Job?
11:14a, 11/9/17
In reply to jamaggie06
Graduated in 2015 with a finance degree. Have gotten small raises every so often to keep up with inflation.
And are they hiring?jamaggie06 said:
20x?
Eve if starting at $10k thats a $200k salary...
If self employed or started your own business, I think that'd be worth noting...otherwise, compang? Location? Job?
Graduated in 2015 with a finance degree. Have gotten small raises every so often to keep up with inflation.
5:02p, 11/9/17
In reply to PrestigeWorldwideAg12
Not an oil company but everything the business unit I work for is O&G related. Would prefer not to disclose company.
I've been in the right place at the right time where I was basically able to go from $55K to $70K in a few months, and then again from $75 to where I am at now in a very short time. The first one included my company matching an outside offer. The second one involved a few events and changing jobs internally.... Plus the second includes some additional profit sharing I get now which I didn't before.
Houston.PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:What industry? Location? Company maybe?POW said:
2012: 45K (jr financial analyst) +10K signing/relo bonus (taxes grossed up on that also)
2013: 50K (financial analyst)
2014: 55/60K (financial analyst)
2015: 70K (Sales and Operations planning manager)
2016: 78K (S&OP manager)
2017: 90K (Financial planning & analysis manager)
Have a non-technical degree. Goal has been to hit $100K by 30 so I have two years to make it. Have stayed with same company entire time. Work 40 hr weeks probably 3/4 weeks a month and maybe one 50-55 hour week a month. Good flexibility and not overly stressful.
Not an oil company but everything the business unit I work for is O&G related. Would prefer not to disclose company.
I've been in the right place at the right time where I was basically able to go from $55K to $70K in a few months, and then again from $75 to where I am at now in a very short time. The first one included my company matching an outside offer. The second one involved a few events and changing jobs internally.... Plus the second includes some additional profit sharing I get now which I didn't before.
11:56a, 11/13/17
In reply to f burg ag
Big 4?f burg ag said:
MS Accounting, 3.0 GPA
1997 X
2002 2x
2007 4x
2012 9x
2017 20x
1:13p, 11/13/17
Interesting thread, when I was growing $100k was sort of a benchmark for finally making it (middle-class life) - or at least that was my perception.
Would you guys say that $200k is now the new $100k (taking into account inflation etc.)?
Would you guys say that $200k is now the new $100k (taking into account inflation etc.)?
9:46p, 11/13/17
Thank you for someone saying that!
I recall growing up hearing about how engineers could make $100+k... well, in 1998, $100k meant a hell of a lot more than it does now. But it does not seem salaries have kept up.
Even the high engineers where I work aren't pulling $200k. Glassdoor reveals the same. 10+ yrs, senior level, typica would be in the $120-$140. Managers more.
At the same time in '98, a new base model pickup could be bought for $15-$18k; definitely less than $20k. What can you get one for now? $25?
Anyone else agree/disagree? Am I just "old man yells at cloud" in training?
I recall growing up hearing about how engineers could make $100+k... well, in 1998, $100k meant a hell of a lot more than it does now. But it does not seem salaries have kept up.
Even the high engineers where I work aren't pulling $200k. Glassdoor reveals the same. 10+ yrs, senior level, typica would be in the $120-$140. Managers more.
At the same time in '98, a new base model pickup could be bought for $15-$18k; definitely less than $20k. What can you get one for now? $25?
Anyone else agree/disagree? Am I just "old man yells at cloud" in training?
9:27a, 11/14/17
In reply to AggieC07
Depends on one's definition of "making it". Small-town Texas a couple teachers with a couple kids can live a much different life than a double income no kids couple in San Fran. $100k may be "making it" for the teachers but $200k may not be "making it" for the city folk.
AggieC07 said:
Interesting thread, when I was growing $100k was sort of a benchmark for finally making it (middle-class life) - or at least that was my perception.
Would you guys say that $200k is now the new $100k (taking into account inflation etc.)?
Depends on one's definition of "making it". Small-town Texas a couple teachers with a couple kids can live a much different life than a double income no kids couple in San Fran. $100k may be "making it" for the teachers but $200k may not be "making it" for the city folk.
9:29a, 11/14/17
In reply to cjo03
Agreed, lots of factors in place especially as it relates to COL.
I was saying growing up (late 90s), my general perception was $100k was a benchmark for a good salary. I grew up in the suburbs in Houston.
"Making it" was probably poor wording on my part.
I was saying growing up (late 90s), my general perception was $100k was a benchmark for a good salary. I grew up in the suburbs in Houston.
"Making it" was probably poor wording on my part.
9:41a, 11/14/17
To be fair $100k always seemed like big $ to me - grew up in a family of educators. Haven't looked at the calculators lately but I'd wager that $100k still puts a household in top 25%. And $200k closer to top 5%.
9:54a, 11/14/17
According to this article, $100k would put you around the top ten percentile.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4109731-united-states-income-brackets-percentiles-2017
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4109731-united-states-income-brackets-percentiles-2017
12:23p, 11/14/17
Graduated 2002
Job 1 - $38
Job 2 - $46
Job 3 - $60-$102
Job 4 - $115
Job 5 - $150
Job 6 - $215
Job 1 - $38
Job 2 - $46
Job 3 - $60-$102
Job 4 - $115
Job 5 - $150
Job 6 - $215
8:34p, 11/14/17
I don't concern myself quite as much with income as I do net worth. I can %100 control what I save and what I spend, but not quite as much how I make.
I started tracking in 2010 at age 30, so before that is a bit of a guess.
2005 ~ 1/10x.
2010 x
2015 7x
1/2018 ~12x.
Plan to be about 100x in my early 60s, Unless I retire in late 50s which I'm considering.
Income has gone up and down over the years. Made decent money at my first real job in 2004, and it's only about double since then. Had one year where it was about half that as well.
I started tracking in 2010 at age 30, so before that is a bit of a guess.
2005 ~ 1/10x.
2010 x
2015 7x
1/2018 ~12x.
Plan to be about 100x in my early 60s, Unless I retire in late 50s which I'm considering.
Income has gone up and down over the years. Made decent money at my first real job in 2004, and it's only about double since then. Had one year where it was about half that as well.
7:22p, 11/15/17
In reply to GE
Big 4 through 2002 and then switched to slightly smaller firm for work/life balance.