Damn, that came out of nowhere
11:34a, 3/15/24
Is it really out of nowhere?
Hasn't he been hinting at the past 2 or 3 seasons?
Thought I remember both he and McVay mentioning retirement ever since they won the SB a few years ago.
Hasn't he been hinting at the past 2 or 3 seasons?
Thought I remember both he and McVay mentioning retirement ever since they won the SB a few years ago.
12:16p, 3/15/24
In reply to Ag_07
Usually you'll gets some leaks from inner sources, but whatever
Ag_07 said:
Is it really out of nowhere?
Hasn't he been hinting at the past 2 or 3 seasons?
Thought I remember both he and McVay mentioning retirement ever since they won the SB a few years ago.
Usually you'll gets some leaks from inner sources, but whatever
8:23a, 3/19/24
A little overrated IMO. In his prime, JJ Watt was a better player. Of course, Donald was healthier and got a ring, so he will be regarded more highly. But, I don't believe he was as dominant as Watt was before injuries piled up on him.
11:58a, 3/19/24
In reply to Snake Jazz
You could not be me wrongSnake Jazz said:
A little overrated IMO. In his prime, JJ Watt was a better player. Of course, Donald was healthier and got a ring, so he will be regarded more highly. But, I don't believe he was as dominant as Watt was before injuries piled up on him.
1:34p, 3/19/24
In reply to _lefraud_
But, I've seen his name thrown around with LT and Reggie and Mean Joe. Sorry, but he wasn't THAT good. Again, I don't think he was even the best defensive player of his era. Vintage Watt was a better player than Vintage Donald. I'll die on that hill.
Donald is a first ballot Hall-of-Famer. No argument._lefraud_ said:You could not be me wrong.Snake Jazz said:
A little overrated IMO. In his prime, JJ Watt was a better player. Of course, Donald was healthier and got a ring, so he will be regarded more highly. But, I don't believe he was as dominant as Watt was before injuries piled up on him.
But, I've seen his name thrown around with LT and Reggie and Mean Joe. Sorry, but he wasn't THAT good. Again, I don't think he was even the best defensive player of his era. Vintage Watt was a better player than Vintage Donald. I'll die on that hill.
3:24p, 3/21/24
In reply to Snake Jazz
LT won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Mean Joe won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Reggie won a ring a played in multiple super bowls
Donald won a ring and played in multiple super bowls
Guess who didn't win a ring or play in multiple super bowls?
Take your homer glasses off and then maybe you can see it.
Mean Joe won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Reggie won a ring a played in multiple super bowls
Donald won a ring and played in multiple super bowls
Guess who didn't win a ring or play in multiple super bowls?
Take your homer glasses off and then maybe you can see it.
4:03p, 3/21/24
In reply to _lefraud_
JJ Watt (2012-15)
315 tackles
250 solo tackles
119 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
10 fumble recoveries
69 sacks
41 passes defended (this number is ridiculous)
1 INT
Aaron Donald (2017-20)
193 tackles
129 solo tackles
74 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
2 fumble recoveries
57.5 sacks
5 passes defended
0 INT
It's amazing how quickly people have forgotten just how amazing Watt was at his best. Guess he should have played in Los Angeles.
Let's look at both over the best four years of their career:_lefraud_ said:
LT won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Mean Joe won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Reggie won a ring a played in multiple super bowls
Donald won a ring and played in multiple super bowls
Guess who didn't win a ring or play in multiple super bowls?
Take your homer glasses off and then maybe you can see it.
JJ Watt (2012-15)
315 tackles
250 solo tackles
119 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
10 fumble recoveries
69 sacks
41 passes defended (this number is ridiculous)
1 INT
Aaron Donald (2017-20)
193 tackles
129 solo tackles
74 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
2 fumble recoveries
57.5 sacks
5 passes defended
0 INT
It's amazing how quickly people have forgotten just how amazing Watt was at his best. Guess he should have played in Los Angeles.
9:07a, 3/22/24
In reply to Snake Jazz
I always thought that stretch with Watt put him in the convo for greatest defensive player of all time, certainly of this century. Both Watt and Donald are in the upper echelon of great players.
9:40a, 3/22/24
In reply to Snake Jazz
LMFAO comparing a pure DE stats against a pure DT
Snake Jazz said:Let's look at both over the best four years of their career:_lefraud_ said:
LT won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Mean Joe won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Reggie won a ring a played in multiple super bowls
Donald won a ring and played in multiple super bowls
Guess who didn't win a ring or play in multiple super bowls?
Take your homer glasses off and then maybe you can see it.
JJ Watt (2012-15)
315 tackles
250 solo tackles
119 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
10 fumble recoveries
69 sacks
41 passes defended (this number is ridiculous)
1 INT
Aaron Donald (2017-20)
193 tackles
129 solo tackles
74 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
2 fumble recoveries
57.5 sacks
5 passes defended
0 INT
It's amazing how quickly people have forgotten just how amazing Watt was at his best. Guess he should have played in Los Angeles.
LMFAO comparing a pure DE stats against a pure DT
9:50a, 3/22/24
In reply to Bunk Moreland
Regardless, both were defensive linemen, and Watt's numbers dwarf Donald's. Obvious who impacted the game more.
Actually, Watt bounced all over the place. Lined up inside a lot.Bunk Moreland said:Snake Jazz said:Let's look at both over the best four years of their career:_lefraud_ said:
LT won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Mean Joe won rings and played in multiple super bowls
Reggie won a ring a played in multiple super bowls
Donald won a ring and played in multiple super bowls
Guess who didn't win a ring or play in multiple super bowls?
Take your homer glasses off and then maybe you can see it.
JJ Watt (2012-15)
315 tackles
250 solo tackles
119 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
10 fumble recoveries
69 sacks
41 passes defended (this number is ridiculous)
1 INT
Aaron Donald (2017-20)
193 tackles
129 solo tackles
74 tackles for loss
15 forced fumbles
2 fumble recoveries
57.5 sacks
5 passes defended
0 INT
It's amazing how quickly people have forgotten just how amazing Watt was at his best. Guess he should have played in Los Angeles.
LMFAO comparing a pure DE stats against a pure DT
Regardless, both were defensive linemen, and Watt's numbers dwarf Donald's. Obvious who impacted the game more.
9:52a, 3/22/24
In reply to Snake Jazz
Something's obvious alright.
Quote:
Regardless, both were defensive linemen, and Watt's numbers dwarf Donald's. Obvious who impacted the game more.
Something's obvious alright.
10:03a, 3/22/24
In reply to Bunk Moreland
And what would that be?Bunk Moreland said:Quote:
Regardless, both were defensive linemen, and Watt's numbers dwarf Donald's. Obvious who impacted the game more.
Something's obvious alright.
7:10a, 3/23/24
This:
Nail on the head, though watt did play lots inside. You simply can't use numbers like this to try to compare the two.
Thats not a sleight at watt. He is an all time great, first ballot HoF, all century team etc etc.
But Donald is 1st team on "all time nfl lineup".
Quote:
LMFAO comparing a pure DE stats against a pure DT
Nail on the head, though watt did play lots inside. You simply can't use numbers like this to try to compare the two.
Thats not a sleight at watt. He is an all time great, first ballot HoF, all century team etc etc.
But Donald is 1st team on "all time nfl lineup".