German POWs in Hearne, Texas
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aalan94
11:28a, 10/26/06
When I was studying under Dr. Arnold Krammer at A&M, I learned a lot about the German POW camps in America. Texas had the largest number of camps of any state, and the largest one of these was in Hearne, Texas, just West of College Station.

When I later attended a University in Germany, I also attended an exhibit there on these camps. I realized something very interesting there: Because the Geneva Convention rules required POWs to get exactly the same quality of food as the host country's own soldiers. What this meant in America, ironically, is that German and Italian POWs ate better than the American civilians, since our rations for our troops consisted of more calories per day than the civilian rations.

The U.S. was the only country that followed the Geneva Convention to the letter. While the Germans treated U.S. and British prisoners well, they massacred millions of Polish ones and starved many thousands of Russians.

Here in the U.S., the Germans lived the good life. In many cases, they were loaned out to farmers as workers, and could work in the fields with minimal guards. In fact, one guard was reprimanded when he decided to take a nap and gave his gun to one German prisoner to "guard" the others.

Very few German POWs escaped, and all but one were caught. When Dr. Krammer wrote his definitive book on German POWs in America back in the early 80s, he mentioned this man, and named him. Then, one evening, he got a call on the phone - it was the escaped prisoner. He was living in California and making a living as a tennis instructor. The professor and the prisoner met on the set of the Today Show, where the prisoner finally surrendered to U.S. authorities after 40 years on the run. He had forgotten almost all of his German, and when he finally was reunited with his sister, had to speak to her through a translator.

Anyway, it's an amazing era to study. Here's some info on Camp Hearne:
http://nautarch.tamu.edu/anth/waters/

quote:
During the second world war, large numbers of Axis soldiers were captured by the Allies. The first combatants captured by the American army belonged to Rommel’s Afrika Korps; captured in Tunisia in May 1943. These prisoners were brought across the Atlantic and interred at camps throughout the United States. By June 1945, over 425,000 Axis prisoners of war (ca. 371,000 Germans, 50,000 Italians, and 4000 Japanese) were housed in over 650 POW camps across the United States. While there is literature on the general POW program, most notably that of historian Arnold Krammer, none of these POW camps have ever been intensively investigated. These camps, which are a part of American history, are disappearing along with an entire generation of people who experienced these POW camps firsthand. Over the past several years, my students and I have been investigating Camp Hearne in an attempt to record its history before it is lost forever. We have conducted archaeological excavations at the camp, interviewed former guards and POWs, and searched through archives. Based on this research a comprehensive view of this camp is emerging.


The prisoners (mostly from the Afrika Korps) wore their uniforms. This was a Geneva Convention requirement. In fact, German POWs, who were often given passes to go into town unescorted, were allowed to give the Sieg Heil salute. This caused controversy in a Kansas town, because they did this outside of a movie theater. The U.S. military did not want to ban the "Hitler greeting" because of fear that the Germans would retaliate and require U.S. officers to do the "Sieg Heil" instead of the American salute.






German POWs at Hearne were well treated. They played in an orchestra, and spruced up the camp with artwork:




They got to make model gliders in their spare time.


Hearne was kind of the headquarters camp, and they did things like run the post office for all U.S. POW camps. Here the inmates are sorting mail:


Probably the only time when the "big football game" in Hearne did not mean a trip down the road to Kyle Field.







Though they liked America, many were homesick, as these paintings show:


German canteen engraved by prisoner:


Schauspielern (Actors)
I especially like the "Old West" play, which apparently they wrote and directed by themselves:


Barracks of the American guards:


Dough
12:21p, 10/26/06
Fascinating photos and story....although I have a very hard time believing that he would "lose" his German that severely.

I read an article about a POW camp in Arizona that didn't have any fences. Of course the Germans would escape, but EVERY one of them came back to the camp because it was in the middle of the freaking desert and so far isolated from any form of civilization.


**Edit** In hindsight, I'm sure that time has distorted my memory of that story. I'm sure the camp had fences, but that the security was far less stringent than at other camps.



Now the thing that I call livin' is just bein' satisfied with knowin' I got no one else to blame





[This message has been edited by Dough (edited 10/26/2006 11:43a).]
aalan94
1:00p, 10/26/06
The guy claims (in a follow-up book Dr. Krammer wrote called "Hitler's Last Soldier in America"
that he lost his ability to speak German because he intentionally suppressed it, and punished himself when he lapsed. He knew that continuing to speak German, even in private, would increase the likelihood that he'd slip up, or would give him an accent in his English. He lived for 40 years in fear of the FBI, and when someone did ask him about his accent, I think he said he was Norwegian, or something like that.
Smokedraw01
1:11p, 10/26/06
There was also a large camp in Princeton, TX. Today, not much remains of the camp except some concrete slabs and such.

The one thing that bothered me about the POW camps is that we treated the Germans better than we treated blacks and the Japenese-Americans. I understand the views of the time and I would expect anything different but it's still one stain on our image.
Apache
1:19p, 10/26/06
My father in law's dad had a couple of brothers that stayed behind in Germany when he immigrated to the US. One was killed in the Eastern Front somewhere...nobody knows for sure.

The other (Uncle Otto) was captured by American soldiers in Italy. He spent the rest of the war in the Midwest (Indiana I believe). He had an American girlfriend (a recent German immigrant). He's still living in Germany to this day & was very thankful to be captured by the Americans.

My father in law said Uncle Otto thought Hitler was crazy, and almost all of the men he served with felt the same way.
BQ78
2:14p, 10/26/06
The swimming pool at Camp Bullis was constructed by German prisoners. Nice big pool too.
aalan94
2:38p, 10/26/06
quote:
There was also a large camp in Princeton, TX. Today, not much remains of the camp except some concrete slabs and such.


Drove by there once. Most of the site is now a city park. Lots of cities across Texas benefited from military facilities. Texas had great weather, so it had tons of aviation training. Most small town airports date to WWII. And some were large enough that the barracks, buildings, etc. were later turned into colleges and technical schools.
Aggie Infantry
3:24p, 10/26/06
http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/GG/qug1.html
WestTxAg06
4:14p, 10/26/06
Our US history teacher in high school (a coach, but an absolutely outstanding history teacher) grew up in Hereford and he told us some stories about the POW camp outside of Hereford. I believe they had quite a few Germans and Italians.
aalan94
1:38p, 10/27/06
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The Geneva Convention of 1929 requires that prisoners of war be moved to a climate similar to that where they are captured; apparently it was thought that the climate of Texas is similar to that of North Africa.


From Handbook of Texas. I had read that somewhere, but forgot about it.
aalan94
1:41p, 10/27/06
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However uncomfortable, the POW camps were sometimes considered too good for the captive Germans, and many a Texas community called its local camp the "Fritz Ritz."


Ha! That's funny.
aalan94
1:47p, 10/27/06
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Most escapes were comical affairs: a prisoner from Mexia calling for help after having been chased up a tree by an angry Brahman bull; three from Hearne who were found on the Brazos River in a crude raft hoping somehow to sail back to Germany; and another from Hearne who was picked up along U.S. Highway 79, near Franklin, heartily singing German army marching songs. There is no evidence that any of the escapees committed any act of sabotage while on the loose.


Dr. Krammer told the story of some Germans who escaped, saw a map with "New Braunfels" on it and thought they would be safe there. When they arrived, the townspeople beat them up and turned them over to the police.
2007aggie
3:25p, 10/27/06
My grandmother grew up in a small community near Hearne. She and my great-grandmother have told me stories of escaped POWs that rode the train through town. They'd get off and come to their front door asking for food.
Obvious_Man
4:27p, 10/27/06
My wife was lucky enough during her time at as an archaeology major A&M to work some on the prisoner camp excavations. They still haven't located the beautiful fountain shown in one of the pictures earlier in the thread.

The Germans generally relished their time in Texas. There were actually a few Japanese POWs in the camp, but they generally stayed to themselves. I know that one prisoner became a Baptist minister. Although many were homesick, an equal number had no interest in going back home.
BigJim49 AustinNowDallas
4:31p, 10/27/06
Bastrop had a large number of POWs. As teens we went in there for some reason. Feeling safe we gave them the finger - they acted like they didn't know what that was.

I was stationed in Germany 52 years ago - still use some Germany even though I was never good at speaking German.
CanyonAg77
8:48p, 10/27/06
Prisoner constructed chapel at Hereford




Water tower at site of Hereford POW camp





Chapel with tower in background





Catholic church in Umbarger Texas where prisoners painted frescos and carved an altar.







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aalan94
2:05p, 10/28/06
Good Stuff, CanyonAg. I definately need to check that out.
91AggieLawyer
11:57p, 10/28/06
I have a great grandfather who was jailed during the first world war on suspicion of (German) insurrection. He was kept in jail for somewhere around 90 days, paid a 10K bail, and never charged nor tried. The US archives say they have no information on him.
aggieband 83
12:36a, 10/29/06
P.O.W.'s were also housed in El Campo. The barracks are still there.
SWCBonfire
9:27a, 10/30/06
I heard a story that the German POW's in Bastrop were amazed when they first saw an armadillo and called them "panzerschwein" - armored pigs.
RayRay99
10:32a, 11/3/06
Dr. Krammer's class was possibly my favorite at A&M.
Twelfthman99
1:33p, 11/7/06
When I took Dr. Waters' Intro to Archaeology class we got to go dig at the Hearne POW site for extra credit on the weekends.
rwtxag83
6:28a, 11/9/06
Wow, very interesting.

My dad grew up in Mississippi and vividly remembered the Italian POWs there coming to work in the fields for my Granddad. The guard told them they would be fed thru the camp, but they would work harder if they gave them something extra. Supposedly almost everybody would give them candy bars, most of which ended up on the ground. My Granddad found out that most of the POWs that came were actually Sicilian, and knowing how much they liked bread, my Granddad would get them extra bread. My dad said there was not even a crumb of that bread on the ground.
mneisch
11:17a, 11/9/06
I actually have Kramers class right now, and it is definetly very interesting. I actually have his book checked out right now, its been a pretty good read so far. Its going to be disappointing when I go to history 105 and am completely bored.

"The road goes on forever and the party never ends."
Troy McClure
9:40p, 11/13/06
I removed a underground fuel storage tank from a former German POW camp in Brady. The old lady that owned the property was very suspicious about letting the government on her property. At the time I had no idea of the extent of the POW system in Texas.
rebelE06
6:39p, 11/30/06
I studied abroad with Krammer in Poland and loved it. I learned more in that class than I've ever learned in any other class at A&M. The knowledge that guy knows is incredible, and I was glad that I got the opportunity to study in Poland. Krammer is an interesting guy though. He doesn't mind sharing his liberal views with us students, but when students chime in with their opinions, he doesn't even listen. He also has a propensity to stretch the truth a bunch. Anyways- I guess most professors are liberal lke that- but he's a good teacher.
BQ78
12:14p, 12/1/06
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He also has a propensity to stretch the truth a bunch


Yes, he does and don't you dare call him on it either or that will tick him off. Still a very entertaining and informative prof.
rebelE06
5:03p, 12/1/06
Yeah, my buddies and I thought he is in the CIA, because he would sneak off on secret meetings in Europe. He even travelled one weekend to talk with a former West German general.He also showed us several submission holds that will choke people using their collar on a dress shirt. Kinda interesting. We would joke around and call him on it, and he got real defensive. Kinda makes you think, because what a perfect cover for an agent.
aalan94
7:58p, 12/3/06
When I studied in Germany, I took a class from him there too. A&M had an agreement with that university, and I went on an exchange. I was walking down the street, when much to my surprise, there was Dr. Krammer coming the other way. We chatted and he told me to enroll in his class, which was on the roll of German-Americans in History. The Germans were pretty astounded at the role their folks had played here, of which they were mostly ignorant.
TERRY L
2:48p, 12/6/06
My Grandad had German pow's working on his ranch in the panhandle as day laborers. My uncles talk about trying to communicate with them and Mom talks about how good looking those guys were.
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