Messi to the MLS
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carl spacklers hat
9:34p, 8/15/23
In reply to wangus12
You serious, Clark?
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Rudyjax
12:03a, 8/16/23
In reply to carl spacklers hat
carl spacklers hat said:

You serious, Clark?


Lol. Exactly.

The simplest explanation is the most likely.

He's one of the best players to ever play the game and the best player to ever play in the MLS.
jeffk
6:11a, 8/16/23
Idk if anyone is on the take for Messi showing out, but Andre Blake did his best to make it look like he was last night.
Out in Left Field
8:14a, 8/16/23
In reply to jeffk
Right, terrible positioning on the first two goals by Blake
AggieShanks
8:26a, 8/16/23
In reply to Out in Left Field
I just don't think anyone would challenge him from that far out with perfect placement in the far corner. Messi is just showing me the levels of soccer and the mls has a long way to go.
deadbq03
9:43a, 8/16/23
In reply to AggieShanks
Yep. It's Messi being Messi. No one expects a shot from these situations.

https://x.com/futboljan10/status/1691600635655766367

Worst you can say is that MLS refs have some bias and will give him the benefit of a doubt on close calls. That's most certainly true cause they're all human. But there's no conspiracy.

ETA: I think this is the first time I've tried linking a X since they became X… is TexAgs not setup to imbed automatically yet?
Rudyjax
9:54a, 8/16/23
In reply to wangus12
wangus12 said:

You can't convince me at this point that the MLS haven't arranged for teams to throw their games and give Miami a cup run to generate interest. Too many "magical" moments for Messi in this run. The late FK goal. The insane FC Dallas comeback and ridiculous OG by Dallas.
Too bad message board geniuses don't follow soccer.
aTmAg
11:29a, 8/16/23
The only obvious bias I can remember is that he should have been carded when he pushed that Orlando dude over. However, I think he shouldn't have been carded the 1st time in that game. I think the ref gave that card to prove "see I even card the GOAT!" But after the push, the ref didn't want to be the guy who gave Messi a red card when the first card was so weak. So he let it slide.
jeffk
2:23p, 8/16/23
In reply to AggieShanks
AggieShanks said:

I just don't think anyone would challenge him from that far out with perfect placement in the far corner. Messi is just showing me the levels of soccer and the mls has a long way to go.


Still poor positioning.
carl spacklers hat
2:24p, 8/16/23
In reply to Rudyjax
Rudyjax said:

carl spacklers hat said:

You serious, Clark?


Lol. Exactly.

The simplest explanation is the most likely.

He's one of the best players to ever play the game and the best player to ever play in the MLS.
That's just it. And there is such a HUGE gap between Messi and the average MLS player that he is able to make plays (or score goals) not normally pulled off in MLS due to player quality, or lack therof. It might look like other teams are sandbagging but that's just how good Messi is - he makes teams look foolish. Adding Busquets and Alba, though, puts Miami over the top. They would have been much improved with Messi only but with those two added, we might see a first MLS treble.

Did any of you all notice the defender fall over like a tree on the move Messi put on him in the box, second half, where Messi almost scored but great kick save from the last defender kept it out? Needs its own gif. (Goal would not have counted due to offside call).
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
jeffk
2:29p, 8/16/23
Tata is a great coach as well. Just a massive infusion of talent and excitement into a single team in a very short time.
wangus12
2:33p, 8/16/23
In reply to jeffk
jeffk said:

Idk if anyone is on the take for Messi showing out, but Andre Blake did his best to make it look like he was last night.
This was more what I was talking about, but it was all said in jest anyways. Of course Messi is that damn good. Blake is a very solid GK and should be making both those saves, but was caught in the wrong position both times.

deadbq03
3:05p, 8/16/23
I don't know… from this angle I find it hard to blame the GK too much. You absolutely don't want to get beat at your near post and Messi just whips out some filth to the far post when no one expects it.

https://x.com/crewsmat10/status/1691594288902156643
Out in Left Field
8:19p, 8/19/23
Leagues Cup Final!

Miami at Nashville
jeffk
8:31p, 8/19/23
Uniform combo makes it look like a game played by a bunch of Peeps.
oragator
8:37p, 8/19/23
Filthy.
Good heavens,
AggieShanks
8:55p, 8/19/23
In reply to oragator
Man. He's just different. Cooked two defenders and hit a perfect positioned kick from high in the box
jeffk
9:07p, 8/19/23
In reply to AggieShanks
One of which was Walker Zimmerman.

And Nashville has played well. Messi is just otherworldly.
Rudyjax
9:18p, 8/19/23
In reply to jeffk
jeffk said:

One of which was Walker Zimmerman.

And Nashville has played well. Messi is just otherworldly.


Exactly. Nashville is the better "team". They just don't have Messi.

Rudyjax
9:19p, 8/19/23
carl spacklers hat
11:28p, 8/19/23
In reply to oragator
oragator said:

Filthy.
Good heavens,
There are those players who make you stand up and hold your breath. Messi is one. Johnny was another one.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Rudyjax
11:42p, 8/19/23
In reply to carl spacklers hat
carl spacklers hat said:

oragator said:

Filthy.
Good heavens,
There are those players who make you stand up and hold your breath. Messi is one. Johnny was another one.


Yes, Johnny was for 2 years. Messi has been doing it for over 20 years.

I get the idea, but it's not exactly an accurate rep.

It's more like Gretzky, Michael, Brady, and Pujols.
Rudyjax
1:08p, 8/25/23


Now we know who to look for, we can tag team it. Who wants to be my pawn?
Kidding, that dude looks like a belgian malinois protecting their partner.
Texaggie7nine
1:38p, 8/25/23
In reply to Rudyjax
Wonder if the MLS or some insurance company is making him have that guy follow him everywhere.
7nine
carl spacklers hat
3:48p, 8/25/23
In reply to Texaggie7nine
Have to protect the investment!
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Aggie09Derek
6:51p, 8/26/23


Guessing he will come off the bench and play a little but….ouch
AgRyan04
8:57p, 8/26/23
11 goals in 624 minutes....1.59 goals per 90 minutes. He is a cheat code.


MLS All Time Scorers
1. Chris Wondolowski - 148 goals from 338 matches (0.52 per 90 minutes)
#2. Landon Donovan - 145 goals from 340 matches (0.45 goals per 90)
#3. Jeff Cunningham - 134 goals from 365 matches (0.53 per 90)
#4. Jaime Moreno - 133 goals from 340 matches (0.46 per 90)
#5. Kei Kamara - 119 goals from 325 matches (0.44 per 90)
#6. Ante Razov - 114 goals from 262 matches (0.50 per 90)
#7. Jason Kreis - 108 goals from 305 matches (0.39 per 90)
#8. Bradley Wright-Phillips - 107 goals from 177 matches (0.68 per 90)
#9. Dwayne De Rosario - 104 goals from 343 matches (0.37 per 90)
#10. Taylor Twellman - 101 goals from 174 matches (0.60 per 90)
#11. Edson Buddle - 100 goals from 304 matches (0.45 per 90)
#12. Carlos Ruiz - 89 goals from 183 matches (0.57 per 90)
#13. Roy Lassiter - 88 goals from 179 matches (0.58 per 90)
#14. Robbie Keane - 83 goals from 125 matches (0.69 per 90)
#15. Brian Ching - 82 goals from 233 matches (0.47 per 90)
Rudyjax
9:15p, 8/26/23
In reply to AgRyan04
So you're saying Messi is better than Wondo?
oragator
9:27p, 8/26/23
AgRyan04
9:41p, 8/26/23
In reply to Rudyjax
Rudyjax said:

So you're saying Messi is better than Womdo?


Haha....yeah, just a tad. I just put those in there for a point of reference.....he's just so, so, so much better than all of those guys statistically so far.
aTmAg
9:58p, 8/26/23
In reply to oragator
Messi is turning that Cremaschi kid into a stud. It would be sweet if he ends up playing on USMNT after learning all he can from the GOAT.
Texas velvet maestro
10:00p, 8/26/23
In reply to aTmAg
aTmAg said:

Messi is turning that Cremaschi kid into a stud. It would be sweet if he ends up playing on USMNT after learning all he can from the GOAT.
indeed. Messi raising everyone's level.
Rudyjax
10:15p, 8/26/23
In reply to aTmAg
aTmAg said:

Messi is turning that Cremaschi kid into a stud. It would be sweet if he ends up playing on USMNT after learning all he can from the GOAT.


Hopefully Messi tells the kid to go to Europe. Iron sharpens iron.
aTmAg
10:30p, 8/26/23
In reply to Rudyjax
Rudyjax said:

aTmAg said:

Messi is turning that Cremaschi kid into a stud. It would be sweet if he ends up playing on USMNT after learning all he can from the GOAT.


Hopefully Messi tells the kid to go to Europe. Iron sharpens iron.
Ideally, he'd play one more year with the GOAT, then go play under Xavi at Barcelona while playing with the USMNT.
wangus12
11:50p, 8/26/23
In reply to AgRyan04
AgRyan04 said:

11 goals in 624 minutes....1.59 goals per 90 minutes. He is a cheat code.


MLS All Time Scorers
1. Chris Wondolowski - 148 goals from 338 matches (0.52 per 90 minutes)
#2. Landon Donovan - 145 goals from 340 matches (0.45 goals per 90)
#3. Jeff Cunningham - 134 goals from 365 matches (0.53 per 90)
#4. Jaime Moreno - 133 goals from 340 matches (0.46 per 90)
#5. Kei Kamara - 119 goals from 325 matches (0.44 per 90)
#6. Ante Razov - 114 goals from 262 matches (0.50 per 90)
#7. Jason Kreis - 108 goals from 305 matches (0.39 per 90)
#8. Bradley Wright-Phillips - 107 goals from 177 matches (0.68 per 90)
#9. Dwayne De Rosario - 104 goals from 343 matches (0.37 per 90)
#10. Taylor Twellman - 101 goals from 174 matches (0.60 per 90)
#11. Edson Buddle - 100 goals from 304 matches (0.45 per 90)
#12. Carlos Ruiz - 89 goals from 183 matches (0.57 per 90)
#13. Roy Lassiter - 88 goals from 179 matches (0.58 per 90)
#14. Robbie Keane - 83 goals from 125 matches (0.69 per 90)
#15. Brian Ching - 82 goals from 233 matches (0.47 per 90)
ACTUALLY he only has 1 goal in 1 game in MLS. All those other ones were in a Cup comp
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