What SEC record do we need to be a Top 8 Seed?
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ChemEng94
4:42p, 4/14/24
TTT. Leg 3 down and we are +1.
Bluecat_Aggie94
5:28p, 4/14/24
It is very possible that it will be harder competition to win the SEC tournament than the CWS. Let that sink in.
ChemEng94
7:37p, 4/20/24
Another successful weekend.
HoustonAg2106
7:40p, 4/20/24
In reply to Bluecat_Aggie94
Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

It is very possible that it will be harder competition to win the SEC tournament than the CWS. Let that sink in.


That's usually the case
Bullpen Chias
7:51p, 4/20/24
In reply to OlsenAg15
OlsenAg15 said:

Anything north of 16 wins gets us a Top8 IMO


I can't find where an SEC team has gotten a national seed at 17-13.
Sq 17
7:22a, 4/23/24
In reply to Tuve
Tuve said:

This might be the best baseball conference ever. 10 teams ranked and 6 in the top 10. I think 17-13 will get us a Top 8 and 15-15 will get us to host a regional.


Obviously SEC is best I have a suspicion the if there is a clear separation between the 3rd & 4 th best SEC team
The 4 th might get the 9 seed just to spread the national seeds around
CapCityAg89
9:46a, 4/23/24
In reply to Sq 17
Sq 17 said:

Tuve said:

This might be the best baseball conference ever. 10 teams ranked and 6 in the top 10. I think 17-13 will get us a Top 8 and 15-15 will get us to host a regional.


Obviously SEC is best I have a suspicion the if there is a clear separation between the 3rd & 4 th best SEC team
The 4 th might get the 9 seed just to spread the national seeds around

Agree with all of this except I think it's 1-2-4-7 seeds for the top 4 sec teams. 1 and 2 from E and W.

Pair SEC 2 and 4 in the supers. 1 is matched with the west coast/"other" (8 seed) and 3 is matched with the ACC 2.

FWIW, I think sec gets 4, ACC gets 3 and 1 other to get the 8 national seeds.
Sean98
9:55a, 4/23/24
In reply to CapCityAg89
CapCityAg89 said:

Sq 17 said:

Tuve said:

This might be the best baseball conference ever. 10 teams ranked and 6 in the top 10. I think 17-13 will get us a Top 8 and 15-15 will get us to host a regional.


Obviously SEC is best I have a suspicion the if there is a clear separation between the 3rd & 4 th best SEC team
The 4 th might get the 9 seed just to spread the national seeds around

Agree with all of this except I think it's 1-2-4-7 seeds for the top 4 sec teams. 1 and 2 from E and W.

Pair SEC 2 and 4 in the supers. 1 is matched with the west coast/"other" (8 seed) and 3 is matched with the ACC 2.

FWIW, I think sec gets 4, ACC gets 3 and 1 other to get the 8 national seeds.

I may not be reading this right... But if I am I feel the need to point out that NONE of the top 8 seeds will be matched against each other in the Supers. They'll all be hosts. 1 isn't matched with 8 it'll be matched with 16.
Sean98
10:19a, 4/23/24
Here's my Top 8/Top 16 if (1) I were in charge for a day, and (2) today was that day. (#) is Boyd's RPI

1. Texas A&M (1)
2. Arkansas (2)
3. Clemson (4)
4. Tennessee (5)
5. Kentucky (3)
6. North Carolina (7)
7. Florida State (6)
8. East Carolina (8)

9. Wake Forest (9)
10. Oregon State (15)
11. Georgia (11)
12. Indiana State (10)
13. UC-Santa Barbara (12)
14. Coastal Carolina (13)
15. Dallas Baptist (17)
16. Nebraska (19)

I left South Carolina (14) and Virginia (16) out of the mix because of the glut of mid-Atlantic teams and the fact that they both just dropped series this weekend.

I think Duke (21) and Oklahoma (22) will probably be in the mix at the end of the year and DBU/Nebraska would be out. But for today this is where I'm at. I think Tech (28) has a chance in lieu of OU if things break right. I don't see both of them getting a host spot. NC State (29) is red hot and has some helium if they keep winning. I also think Wake has a chance to move up and pull a National Seed from whichever of UNC/FSU slips assuming Wake really has it rolling. East Carolina can't afford to lose to any of the bad teams in their conference or they fall off the Supers line, and they might anyway.

I still believe the committee will want 2 west coast hosts. As of today there's no reach to get 2 in. If UC-SB slips, or their terrible conference just drags them down it could become a reach.

twk
10:27a, 4/23/24
In reply to Sean98
Quote:

I still believe the committee will want 2 west coast hosts. As of today there's no reach to get 2 in. If UC-SB slips, or their terrible conference just drags them down it could become a reach.
Warren Nolan's RPI prediction has them finishing 23-7 in the Big West, but their RPI falls to 21 (probably close enough). They have 3 games series left against Fulerton (210), UC San Diego (133), Bakersfield (277), CS Northridge (76), and Riverside (252). That's a lot of dead weight for the RPI, so they better keep winning. A slip up or two and they could find themselves in the 30s.
Sean98
10:43a, 4/23/24
In reply to twk
Who would have EVER thought of Fullerton as a +200 RPI team.
VegasAg86
10:48a, 4/23/24
In reply to CapCityAg89
CapCityAg89 said:

Sq 17 said:

Tuve said:

This might be the best baseball conference ever. 10 teams ranked and 6 in the top 10. I think 17-13 will get us a Top 8 and 15-15 will get us to host a regional.


Obviously SEC is best I have a suspicion the if there is a clear separation between the 3rd & 4 th best SEC team
The 4 th might get the 9 seed just to spread the national seeds around

Agree with all of this except I think it's 1-2-4-7 seeds for the top 4 sec teams. 1 and 2 from E and W.

Pair SEC 2 and 4 in the supers. 1 is matched with the west coast/"other" (8 seed) and 3 is matched with the ACC 2.

FWIW, I think sec gets 4, ACC gets 3 and 1 other to get the 8 national seeds.



Top 8 seeds don't meet in supers, they meet in Omaha. 1-8 regional winners are paired with 9-16 regional winners in supers.

Last year they didn't seem to go out of their way to pair SEC teams in supers.

4, 3, 1 for national seeds seems about right.
W
11:32a, 4/23/24
last year the ACC and SEC combined for 12 regional hosts

I would expect at least 10 this season. Vandy and S. Carolina will probably do just enough to host

another note from last year...

none of the teams seeded #9 thru #16 made it to Omaha

4 were knocked out in the regional round...and the other 4 in the SR round
CapCityAg89
11:50a, 4/23/24
In reply to Sean98
Sean98 said:

CapCityAg89 said:

Sq 17 said:

Tuve said:

This might be the best baseball conference ever. 10 teams ranked and 6 in the top 10. I think 17-13 will get us a Top 8 and 15-15 will get us to host a regional.


Obviously SEC is best I have a suspicion the if there is a clear separation between the 3rd & 4 th best SEC team
The 4 th might get the 9 seed just to spread the national seeds around

Agree with all of this except I think it's 1-2-4-7 seeds for the top 4 sec teams. 1 and 2 from E and W.

Pair SEC 2 and 4 in the supers. 1 is matched with the west coast/"other" (8 seed) and 3 is matched with the ACC 2.

FWIW, I think sec gets 4, ACC gets 3 and 1 other to get the 8 national seeds.

I may not be reading this right... But if I am I feel the need to point out that NONE of the top 8 seeds will be matched against each other in the Supers. They'll all be hosts. 1 isn't matched with 8 it'll be matched with 16.

No. You read right. As Vegas pointed out, I meant in Omaha (two thoughts in my head). I think they protect 1 but plan on at least one matchup and 2-7 seems most likely to me.
CapCityAg89
12:22p, 4/23/24
In reply to Sean98
Sean98 said:

Here's my Top 8/Top 16 if (1) I were in charge for a day, and (2) today was that day. (#) is Boyd's RPI

1. Texas A&M (1)
2. Arkansas (2)
3. Clemson (4)
4. Tennessee (5)
5. Kentucky (3)
6. North Carolina (7)
7. Florida State (6)
8. East Carolina (8)

9. Wake Forest (9)
10. Oregon State (15)
11. Georgia (11)
12. Indiana State (10)
13. UC-Santa Barbara (12)
14. Coastal Carolina (13)
15. Dallas Baptist (17)
16. Nebraska (19)

I left South Carolina (14) and Virginia (16) out of the mix because of the glut of mid-Atlantic teams and the fact that they both just dropped series this weekend.

I think Duke (21) and Oklahoma (22) will probably be in the mix at the end of the year and DBU/Nebraska would be out. But for today this is where I'm at. I think Tech (28) has a chance in lieu of OU if things break right. I don't see both of them getting a host spot. NC State (29) is red hot and has some helium if they keep winning. I also think Wake has a chance to move up and pull a National Seed from whichever of UNC/FSU slips assuming Wake really has it rolling. East Carolina can't afford to lose to any of the bad teams in their conference or they fall off the Supers line, and they might anyway.

I still believe the committee will want 2 west coast hosts. As of today there's no reach to get 2 in. If UC-SB slips, or their terrible conference just drags them down it could become a reach.



Great post.

I still think UK ends up at 7. Also do not think the committee will want an all SEC-ACC supers. I think 8 will be OSU just to have one out west although I can certainly see ECU if they aren't worried about that scheduling.
Sq 17
8:26p, 4/23/24
In reply to CapCityAg89
Based on the numbers four of 8 national seeds would be correct still
I think the sec get 1 ,3,5,9 iirc 1,5,9 if they won would be on the same side of the Omaha bracket and likely the 2 seed at 8 regional is SEC likely a USCw at an ACC host
ChemEng94
10:22p, 4/27/24
Another series win and still on track.
W
10:44p, 4/27/24
things are looking good

the Ags have 5 series wins over regional teams...likely 1-seeds & 2-seeds:

Georgia
Alabama
Vanderbilt
Carolina
State
HoustonAg2106
12:40p, 4/28/24
In reply to LB12Diamond
LB12Diamond said:

Top 3 in SEC will guarantee a national seed. Heck, maybe even 4-5 this year.


I think top 4 get a national seed and we pretty much know who those teams will be already…A&M, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Kentucky
Sq 17
12:46p, 4/28/24
In reply to HoustonAg2106
If a team stumbles they might get dropped to 9 , right now everyone looks to finish with 21+ wins and that should get them a national seed
Sean98
12:50p, 4/28/24
In reply to W
W said:

things are looking good

the Ags have 5 series wins over regional teams...likely 1-seeds & 2-seeds:

Georgia
Alabama
Vanderbilt
Carolina
State
By comparison, FSU which is in the running for a Top8 seed just got their first series win over a likely regional team yesterday. Their first. of the season.
agspirit_09
6:26a, 5/3/24
Let's hope OP is wrong about this weekend!! Let's keep the series win streak going
Emilio Fantastico
8:12a, 5/3/24
I would like to see us finish no worse than:
2 of 3 vs LSU
3 of 3 vs Ole Miss
2 of 3 vs Arky

22-8 overall in SEC with a 9-1 series record.

That would pretty much guarantee the dreaded #1 overall seed.
Bullpen Chias
8:14a, 5/3/24
In reply to Emilio Fantastico
Emilio Fantastico said:

I would like to see us finish no worse than:
2 of 3 vs LSU
3 of 3 vs Ole Miss
2 of 3 vs Arky

22-8 overall in SEC with a 9-1 series record.

That would pretty much guarantee the dreaded #1 overall seed.


7-2 is a very tall order. But I'll drink to that.
ChemEng94
8:22a, 5/3/24
In reply to agspirit_09
Obviously at the time I wrote that I was thinking that LSU would turn it around. They haven't.

I agree that we need to take 2 of 3 to make this a successful weekend. Of course, a sweep would be great. Hasn't happened since we joined the conference, but this could be the year.
Johnsy3
8:32a, 5/3/24
In reply to Emilio Fantastico
Emilio Fantastico said:

I would like to see us finish no worse than:
2 of 3 vs LSU
3 of 3 vs Ole Miss
2 of 3 vs Arky

22-8 overall in SEC with a 9-1 series record.

That would pretty much guarantee the dreaded #1 overall seed.
Winning the final 9 after dropping the first series 2-1 would be incredible. Especially having an even run differential in the one series we lost.
waco_aggie05
1:37p, 5/3/24
In reply to Emilio Fantastico
Emilio Fantastico said:

I would like to see us finish no worse than:
2 of 3 vs LSU
3 of 3 vs Ole Miss
2 of 3 vs Arky

22-8 overall in SEC with a 9-1 series record.

That would pretty much guarantee the dreaded #1 overall seed.
I mean if we are dialing up our order, I'd say sweep swamp kitty and drop one to Ole Miss.
ChemEng94
4:57p, 5/5/24
I was hoping for 2 out of 3, but we salvaged the finale to stay on track.
W
4:58p, 5/5/24
this thread has gotten more interesting now

as UK, Tenn, Arky, and A&M continue the push to 19 conference wins

UK at 18
Tenn & Arky at 17
A&M at 16

at this point there is room for all four to be top 8 seeds along with Clemson, North Carolina, East Carolina, and tbd
aginlakeway
5:02p, 5/5/24
I think we're a national seed if we go 3-3 in our final 6 SEC games.
ChemEng94
5:04p, 5/5/24
In reply to aginlakeway
Agree. That gets us to 19-11 which is what I figured would do it.
LB12Diamond
6:20p, 5/5/24
Just win the next two series and will be close to the top.
Bullpen Chias
6:22p, 5/5/24
In reply to ChemEng94
ChemEng94 said:

Agree. That gets us to 19-11 which is what I figured would do it.


19-11 got us the 5 seed in 2022. And we are pristine OOC this year. I've said all year - 19 is a lock. 18 you leave it to chance.
twk
6:25p, 5/5/24
It's funny, when it comes to being a national seed, I really care more about who we are matched up with for the super than what the actual number is. Sometimes the 16 is weak, and sometimes that's a team that made a late season run to host.
BadMoonRisin
6:25p, 5/5/24
Im less worried about our seed and more about the less-than-characteristic play that we had in the first two games.

It happens to all good teams, and we rebounded great in game 3. Dont forget about this series, learn from it, and head to the next.
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