In reply to Grapesoda2525

Grapesoda2525 said:

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Kirby (4.5) + Lorenzen (4.5) + Robertson (10) + Mahle (5.5) = 24.5 million in payroll for 2024

Monty = 25 mill in payroll for 2024

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You have Mahle and Robertson flipped on salaires. But your point still stands - CY did solid here. AND Robertson and Mahle are also both under contract for 2025.

Sad to see him go but glad he went to a franchise he can win at that I don't hate.

Maybe we'll be talking to him again next offseason after some contracts come off the books.

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fc2112 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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Kirby (4.5) + Lorenzen (4.5) + Robertson (10) + Mahle (5.5) = 24.5 million in payroll for 2024

Monty = 25 mill in payroll for 2024

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You have Mahle and Robertson flipped on salaires. But your point still stands - CY did solid here. AND Robertson and Mahle are also both under contract for 2025.

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I think those are correct.

Mahle gets $5.5 in '24 and $16.5 in '25. His CBT impact is $11M each yr, I believe.

Robertson gets $10M in '24 and $7M (m opt) in '25 with a $1.5M Buyout.

In reply to DallasAg 94 Yeah I think you're right. Getting confused by salary vs CBT hit.

In reply to Ag Since 83

Ag Since 83 said:

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Sad to see him go but glad he went to a franchise he can win at that I don't hate.

Maybe we'll be talking to him again next offseason after some contracts come off the books.

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What comes off after this season?

In reply to ChipFTAC01

ChipFTAC01 said:

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Ag Since 83 said:

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Sad to see him go but glad he went to a franchise he can win at that I don't hate.

Maybe we'll be talking to him again next offseason after some contracts come off the books.

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What comes off after this season?

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Heaney for one I believe. Scherzer maybe as well?

In reply to ChipFTAC01 Heaney, Scherzer, Robertson, Yates, Leclerc (club option), Lorenzen, janko, Urena.

In reply to ChipFTAC01 Not as much as you'd think.

Scherzer: $12.2M ($43M with $30.8 paid by NYM)
A Heaney: $13.0M
JLeclerc: $ 6.25M
Lorenzen: $ 4.5M
Ki Yates: $ 4.5M
Jankowski: $1.7M
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$41.95M

Eovaldi has a vesting player option.
Robertson has a mutual option with a $1.5M buyout

Also:
Seager decreases $2.5M
Mahle goes from $5.5M to $16.5M
Garcia goes from $4.75M to $9.25M

But, we project the following rotation in '25:
deGrom, Gray, Dunning, Mahle, Bradford, possibly Eovaldi

I think the Monty idea has sailed. I'd rather spend that money elsewhere. If Eovaldi vests and we have him in '25, we're looking for depth which could be Bradford again. Some of the young guys. Porter in maybe '25?!

If we can convert Walsh/Lowe, Taveras, and/or Heaney/Gray into a legit #1 SP prospect for '25/'26, it'd be nice.

Anyone know how to get their hands on last minute tickets for opening day for not outrageous prices??

In reply to DallasAg 94 Yep, the unknown is what players might be traded away and how much money that frees up. I don't worry about it much because it always seems to work itself out.

In reply to DallasAg 94 Scherzer should come back to us on the cheap. He doesn't need any money and we would be chasing a ring again. No need for him to move on to a New York or Boston.

Astros get the yanks. $83!? Lolz

In reply to rbtexan I like to track it because he makes the roster more strategic, to me. Gets me ahead of the trade deadline, etc.

In reply to Grapesoda2525

Grapesoda2525 said:

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Scherzer should come back to us on the cheap. He doesn't need any money and we would be chasing a ring again. No need for him to move on to a New York or Boston.

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I've thought that. He'll be 40 with $351M in earnings.

He moved his family to Texas, which made sense, since he took the Option for '24. He seems to really like the clubhouse. He is very competitive and wants to win. He'll be able to go wherever he wants for a good price and has had great success with Maddux.

In reply to ChoppinDs40

ChoppinDs40 said:

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Astros get the yanks. $83!? Lolz

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Hey, if you are going to see two Dynasties meet on Opening Day... you're going to have to pay Dynasty prices. Those aren't cheap.

Just to keep with tradition, Mr Gigem will be the one starting the season thread tomorrow, correct?

In reply to Mr Gigem

Mr Gigem said:

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Yes. I have it ready to go and will be posted at 5:12am, just like last season.

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In reply to DannyDuberstein

DannyDuberstein said:

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Really amazing to me that a player would let his agent overplay his hand like this. Dude could easily have has $100 million guaranteed. Instead, he's gonna get a fraction of that, take all the risks of being an MLB pitcher (one that has already had one TJ surgery), and hope he can get a massive deal next year when he's a year older. I don't get it at all

It's a shame the Rangers weren't the ones signing him to that fallback deal. Would have jumped on $25mill per year as long as it stayed at 3-4 years or less.

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It was definitely a mis-calculation, but unless his arm suddenly falls off he's guaranteed $25m and a chance to retest the market next year or $50m and a chance to retest the market 2 years from now.

Left money on the table, but who knows -- it's possible he's a guy that wanted to bet on himself.

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Well, he is a a guy with a previous TJ. He'll be 32-33 when the chance to negotiate that next deal comes up. And for these deals with aging players, teams are really paying for the earlier years and just hoping the later years aren't a completely awful deal. If you end up burning those prime years by signing 1-2 year deals, you miss out on jamming money into the back-end

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I think that was ultimately what he was aiming to do - get that last big "in his prime" contract. It didn't happen so he rolled the dice on something next year or year after with a safety net of $50m.

In reply to Proposition Joe I'm always astonished at the guys that are content with playing for a fourth place team, especially after experiencing a World Series winning run.

This also might be the third year in a row he plays for two different clubs.

In reply to DannyDuberstein Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a standard size across MLB. Looks way better than that Oxy **** on the asstros uniforms

Monty might be pitching in the playoffs this season, but it won't be for the Dbacks