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LMCane
8:30a, 1/9/24
In reply to agrams
agrams said:

yeah, my memory was telling me Romania was one of the worst at like 25%, but the wiki article table listed poland as the worst. I just didn't have time to dig into it too much.
not only was Poland sacked in 1939 by both the Nazis and the Communists from the East

but then the Warsaw Jewish Ghetto revolt of 1943 and then the Warsaw Uprising of 1944 pretty much left it like Gaza.

one thing left out is that the 6 MILLION Jews who were massacred were mostly all from Eastern Europe, which is why those countries have the largest losses.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
11:52a, 1/9/24
Boston Corbett is the Union soldier who is credited with shooting John Wilkes Booth at the Virginia farm of Richard Garret. Corbett was a deeply religious man whose behavior might be considered strange. In 1858, after walking around Boston for the night, two prostitutes attempted to solicit him. This bothered him, so he went back to his home and read the Bible. After much soul-searching, he decided to castrate himself with a pair of scissors.

He had been a hat-maker, so there is some thought that his erratic behavior was caused by his exposure to mercury.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
lb sand
1:12p, 1/9/24
In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton
TIL where the phrase mad as a hatter came from.

https://www.hatrealm.com/why-was-mercury-used-in-hat-production/
Cen-Tex
1:28p, 1/9/24
During his post-presidency period, George Washington owned one of the largest whiskey distilleries in the US. In 1799, Washington's distillery produced almost 11,000 gallons of whiskey.

Sapper Redux
1:32p, 1/9/24
In reply to Cen-Tex
All for personal consumption
Cen-Tex
2:54p, 1/9/24
In reply to Sapper Redux
Sapper Redux said:

All for personal consumption
According to Mountvernon.org, he enjoyed a variety of beverages, his favorite being sweet wines like Madeira and Port. He also drank rum punch, porter, and whiskey. He was a strong proponent of 'moderation'.
CanyonAg77
3:13p, 1/9/24
In an era when water was often unsafe to drink, it makes sense.

And if you're a farmer, it's probably easier to transport 2-3 gallons of whisky to market than hauling a bushel of corn (56 pounds)
Sapper Redux
4:03p, 1/9/24
In reply to Cen-Tex
Cen-Tex said:

Sapper Redux said:

All for personal consumption
According to Mountvernon.org, he enjoyed a variety of beverages, his favorite being sweet wines like Madeira and Port. He also drank rum punch, porter, and whiskey. He was a strong proponent of 'moderation'.


I know. More a joke to go along with this classic:

DatTallArchitect
4:49p, 1/9/24
In reply to CT'97
CT'97 said:

In 1490, prior to Columbus coming to the America's, the third largest city in the world was near modern day Saint Louis and stretched over 6 square miles. The population would have fluctuated but would have dwarfed Paris at the time which was only about 150,000 people.
Do you have an article you can share on this?
CanyonAg77
5:25p, 1/9/24
In reply to DatTallArchitect
DatTallArchitect said:

CT'97 said:

In 1490, prior to Columbus coming to the America's, the third largest city in the world was near modern day Saint Louis and stretched over 6 square miles. The population would have fluctuated but would have dwarfed Paris at the time which was only about 150,000 people.
Do you have an article you can share on this?

I don't recall if that city was covered in the book below, but if you want to see what America was like before European diseases arrived....

https://a.co/d/2uOhLSD



Quote:

A groundbreaking study that radically alters our understanding of the Americas before the arrival of the Europeans in 1492.
Traditionally, Americans learned in school that the ancestors of the people who inhabited the Western Hemisphere at the time of Columbus' landing had crossed the Bering Strait 12,000 years ago; existed mainly in small nomadic bands; and lived so lightly on the land that the Americas were, for all practical purposes, still a vast wilderness. But as Charles C. Mann now makes clear, archaeologists and anthropologists have spent the last 30 years proving these and many other long-held assumptions wrong.
In a book that startles and persuades, Mann reveals how a new generation of researchers equipped with novel scientific techniques came to previously unheard-of conclusions. Among them:

  • In 1491 there were probably more people living in the Americas than in Europe.
  • Certain cities - such as Tenochtitln, the Aztec capital - were far greater in population than any contemporary European city. Furthermore, Tenochtitln, unlike any capital in Europe at that time, had running water, beautiful botanical gardens, and immaculately clean streets.
  • The earliest cities in the Western Hemisphere were thriving before the Egyptians built the great pyramids.
  • Pre-Columbian Indians in Mexico developed corn by a breeding process so sophisticated that the journal Science recently described it as "man's first, and perhaps the greatest, feat of genetic engineering".
  • Amazonian Indians learned how to farm the rain forest without destroying it - a process scientists are studying today in the hope of regaining this lost knowledge.
  • Native Americans transformed their land so completely that Europeans arrived in a hemisphere already massively "landscaped" by human beings.

Mann sheds clarifying light on the methods used to arrive at these new visions of the pre-Columbian Americas and how they have affected our understanding of our history and our thinking about the environment. His book is an exciting and learned account of scientific inquiry and revelation.
BQ78
8:59p, 1/9/24
Robert E. Lee and all his wedded children married cousins. The Lees extolled the value of marriage within the family. Lee's half sister married his mother's brother making the man both his uncle and his brother-in-law.
CanyonAg77
9:19p, 1/9/24
In reply to BQ78
I think Ray Stevens had a song about this.

I'm My Own Grandpa"
1990Hullaballoo
7:50a, 1/10/24
In reply to CanyonAg77
CanyonAg77 said:

I think Ray Stevens had a song about this.

I'm My Own Grandpa"
That was Lonzo and Oscar from a lot farther back.

1947 to be exact.



313-7-12thMan
5:01p, 1/10/24
1836 was a leap year. Alamo siege was 13 days. Feb 23-March 6.
Cen-Tex
7:25p, 1/10/24
In reply to 313-7-12thMan
313-7-12thMan said:

1836 was a leap year. Alamo siege was 13 days. Feb 23-March 6.
Speaking of the Alamo,…Rocker Ozzy Osbourne was once arrested and charged with public intoxication for peeing on the Alamo Cenotaph.
BQ78
1:13p, 1/11/24
The Boston Tea Party was not the only protest "tea party" and it wasn't even the first, it was the fourth. The first was in Charleston, SC two weeks before the more famous one. Boston not only had one but had a reprise on March 6, 1774 and it was the eighth such protest in the colonies.
Rabid Cougar
1:43p, 1/11/24
In reply to DatTallArchitect
DatTallArchitect said:

CT'97 said:

In 1490, prior to Columbus coming to the America's, the third largest city in the world was near modern day Saint Louis and stretched over 6 square miles. The population would have fluctuated but would have dwarfed Paris at the time which was only about 150,000 people.
Do you have an article you can share on this?
Its Cahokia Mounds in Collinsville, Illinois. A VERY cool place. Largest Archeological site in North America outside the Pre-Columbian cities in Mexico.

Cahokia

Cahokia on Wiki


Just don't exit off I-70 as you go across the Mississippi River going east.
agrams
3:59p, 1/11/24
In Lincoln's first inauguration, his oath of office was administered by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, who wrote the decision in the Dredd Scott case.

Tanay was an interesting man of contradictions. Even with the Dred Scott decision, he freed the slaves he inherited, and provided monthly pensions to the older ones who were unable to work.
Zona81
11:15p, 1/11/24
In reply to agrams
agrams said:

Teddy Roosevelt as a boy watched Lincoln's funeral procession from his Grandfathers house.

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2010/11/09/teddy-roosevelt-and-abraham-lincoln-in-the-same-photo/


That photo has always fascinated me. While I was visiting TR's childhood home in NYC, the ranger pointed me to the location near Union Square where the Grandfather's house used to stand. Very cool.
AgRyan04
6:27a, 1/12/24
In reply to Zona81
That is amazing. I cant even wrap my head around what the odds had to be for that moment to be captured on film in 1865.
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p_bubel
10:26a, 1/12/24


Theodore Roosevelt's voice.
BQ78
10:35a, 1/12/24
In reply to p_bubel
Speaking of voices, George Patton did not sound like George C. Scott:



Lincoln supposedly had a high pitched voice that would hurt him getting elected today.
p_bubel
11:04a, 1/12/24
Rabid Cougar
1:16p, 1/12/24
In reply to BQ78
BQ78 said:

Speaking of voices, George Patton did not sound like George C. Scott:



Lincoln supposedly had a high pitched voice that would hurt him getting elected today.
Well that is a let down...

Abe Lincoln always sounded like Hal Holbrook until Danial Day Lewis came along.

Fess Parker was Davy Crocket until Billy Bob Thorton - Never was John Wayne.
13 - 0
2:45p, 1/12/24
Fess Parker was Daniel Boone.
BQ78
2:52p, 1/12/24
In reply to 13 - 0
and Davy too, ask Walt Disney.
13 - 0
3:09p, 1/12/24
True dat.... I stand corrected.. He, also, sang the "The Ballad of Davey Crockett".
Bighunter43
3:21p, 1/12/24
In reply to 13 - 0
13 - 0 said:

True dat.... I stand corrected.. He, also, sang the "The Ballad of Davey Crockett".


Yes….but The Wellingtons sang it on the Disney Series….
Rongagin71
11:47p, 1/12/24
Only one European survived for long on Pitcairn Island
(where the mutineers from the Bounty settled)
but he has many descendants all over the world
and the island is still open to settlers.

HarleySpoon
9:50a, 1/14/24
In reply to agrams
agrams said:

7 of 8 German soldiers who died in WWII died on the eastern front vs Russia.

Its amazing how many casualties other countries experienced as compared to the united states.

we had less than 1/3 of 1% killed per our 1939 population. (about 1 death per 312 people). Poland lost 1 in 6 of their population (mainly civilians).

The American war production capacity may have been the machine behind victory, but Russia was the meat grinder that chewed up most of Germany's soldiers.
Was that before or after Russia teamed with Germany to invade Poland…..or after Russia invaded Finland? I get a chuckle on international forums when Russians brag about their casualty numbers vs USA…and then clam up when they are reminded that they started the war as Hitler's military partner in crime.
nortex97
10:07a, 1/14/24
Imperial Japan's role in protecting British shipping in the Mediterranean in WW1 is still surprising to me as I only learned of it recently;

Quote:

Japan came to the rescue of the British in the Mediterranean

Britain's only formal alliance before 1914 was with Japan, and it was designed to relieve the Royal Navy of some of the burden of defending Britain's Asian colonies, and to enable Britain and Japan to help one another safeguard their respective interests in China and Korea.

When war broke out, the Japanese attacked German possessions in the Pacific and China, but in 1917 Britain requested Japanese assistance with escort duties in the Mediterranean. The region was vital for supplying Allied armies in Italy and Greece, and for maintaining communications with Africa, but the Allied navies faced threats from German and Austrian submarines.

The Japanese, operating from Malta, provided escorts for Allied merchant and troop convoys, and a search-and-rescue service for the crews of torpedoed vessels. Japan's important role in the war strengthened its claim to be accepted by the Americans and Europeans as a fully fledged great power.
HarleySpoon
10:12a, 1/14/24
In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

There were actually 5 jobs more dangerous to do in WWII than infantryman:

1. Ball turret gunners
2. Heck, just being in an airplane
3. Merchant mariners
4. Submariners
5. Field telephone layers and radio teams

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/5-world-war-ii-jobs-that-were-more-dangerous-than-being-an-infantryman/
That's interesting. My dad was the radioman for his squad in the 82nd (505th PIR) in WWII and saw very heavy combat from D-day to the end of the war. And, my wife and I were introduced by an old, native Swedish woman who met her American husband when he crashed landed into Sweden while serving as a ball turret gunner in a B-17 on a bombing run over Germany. Pretty long odds.
p_bubel
7:50p, 1/14/24
Cleopatra lived closer to the moon landing than to the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza.
nortex97
7:54p, 1/14/24
Green Bay is the first 7 seed to ever win a playoff game (against the cowboys).
whoop1995
8:53p, 1/14/24
In reply to p_bubel
p_bubel said:

Cleopatra lived closer to the moon landing than to the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza.


Lived closer in time.
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