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Dortmund winning today against Atletico definitely helps the chances of the Bundesliga getting the extra spot in the UCL next year. Pretty much eliminates La Liga from sniping that last spot seeing as there's only Real Madrid left.

It's down to England vs Germany on the coefficients.

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IIIFFFF (big big if) Dortmund can win the UCL and Germany gets the 5th coefficient spot and Dortmund finish 5th in Bundesliga, then Bundesliga would get 6 spots.

But back on planet earth, Aston Villa are gonna crush the conference league and get England more points, City is likely to win the UCL and get England more points, and if we're honest, it's likely that both Bundesliga clubs will lose in the next UCL round (assuming Bayern can manage to win today which is a poor assumption). But Europa League is in our favor with Liverpool unlikely to advance, and Leverkusen looking for 3 trophies.

It's gonna be tight. Difference might come down to math… England's points get divided 8 ways while Germany's get divided by 7.

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Ok nm, we're probably fine now. Congrats on the win.

Good harvesting this week my fellow farmers 🤝 🇩🇪

— Mats Hummels (@matshummels) April 19, 2024

In reply to Legal Custodian FYI - I saw somewhere that we clinch the 5th spot with 2 wins or 4 draws across any legs of the next round… or if any team advances.

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Just hire someone. Anyone. Maybe give TT another lame duck season. Then next summer have a big meeting with Bayern, DFB, Klopp, and Nagelmann and figure out who's coaching where.

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I'm sure the X below hits your feed too but I found it funny that I might be on to something here. Obviously Flick is more than an "anybody" but it's funny that they might actually be considering having a short term hire and then getting Klopp.

It also might be a bold assumption that he'd even want Bayern. I have this weird suspicion that Klopp will avoid limelight entirely and go back to Mainz… and that would be great for the league if he did.

🚨 One plan is actually for Hansi Flick to coach Bayern next season in order to then appoint the current Liverpool coach Jürgen Klopp as the new coach after his sabbatical. [@inside_ffm] pic.twitter.com/lVN4p1UxuT

— Bayern & Football (@MunichFanpage) April 19, 2024

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Just hire someone. Anyone. Maybe give TT another lame duck season. Then next summer have a big meeting with Bayern, DFB, Klopp, and Nagelmann and figure out who's coaching where.

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I'm sure the X below hits your feed too but I found it funny that I might be on to something here. Obviously Flick is more than an "anybody" but it's funny that they might actually be considering having a short term hire and then getting Klopp.

It also might be a bold assumption that he'd even want Bayern. I have this weird suspicion that Klopp will avoid limelight entirely and go back to Mainz… and that would be great for the league if he did.

🚨 One plan is actually for Hansi Flick to coach Bayern next season in order to then appoint the current Liverpool coach Jürgen Klopp as the new coach after his sabbatical. [@inside_ffm] pic.twitter.com/lVN4p1UxuT

— Bayern & Football (@MunichFanpage) April 19, 2024

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I would freaking love that.

But as we all know the only thing that surpasses drama and rumors of College Football recruiting twitter, is hot stove European soccer talk.

If this happens, I would love it. I wanted Flick to stay in Munich as long as possible but he did not get along with Salihamidzic at all. But with him getting sacked last year, it might open the door for Flick to come back. I highly doubt Flick would agree to this plan though.

I could absolutely see Klopp coming back to the Bundesliga and would love for him to do it. I could see him going back to Dortmund too if Terzic has a bad year next year. I'm a big Bundesliga fanboy in general, so whatever makes the league as a whole better is fine with me.

In reply to Legal Custodian Yeah I follow Leipzig loosely enough that I can root for good things to happen to most other teams.

I think best case scenario for the league would be to see Bayern re-hire Flick, Leverkusen to keep Xavi a few more years, and Klopp to go to Dortmund/Mainz. Throw in Stuttgart holding onto Hoeness and the Bundesliga would be really fun to watch.

And I like Marco Rose, but I do wonder if he's the right answer for Leipzig long term. But in the short term, I'm glad to have this year of stability instead of changing coaches every year like we had been. And since he's a Leipzig native, I think it'd be a great story if he could be a long term success - which for me means some hardware beyond the Pokal.

These might be the worst kits I've seen

📸 Bayern's 2024/25 home shirt. It will debut vs. Wolfsburg on May 12 [@Footy_Headlines] pic.twitter.com/NsjC6zQxAv

— Bayern & Germany (@iMiaSanMia) April 20, 2024

In reply to Legal Custodian Yikes I guess we know why the DFB left adidas.

Stuttgart losing to Bremen was a big surprise too

Fun times.

And next week has Leipzig - Dortmund and Leverkusen - Stuttgart.

So… how are you taking the Rangnick rumors? The rest of the world seems to be melting down.

I like him. It's clear to me that Leipzig took steps backward after he left the organization. We still haven't recovered IMO.

It seems like a mistake to me to be chasing guys like Zidane who barely speak English, let alone German. To me, this would be an extremely practical (though clearly unpopular) hire.

That said - if Bayern win the UCL, it's gonna be hard to convince the players that Rangnick has any more to offer than Tuchel… which goes back to me thinking it was crazy to let him be a lame duck.

Or maybe this is all according to plan and behind the scenes they never really wanted to part ways with Tuchel.

In reply to deadbq03 I'd be okay with Rangnick, to be honest. I think he has the respect of most Germans with his work at Leipzig and the Bundesliga as a whole.

I agree with your thinking about Zidane now, at first I just looked at his results in Madrid and how he knows how to handle a huge club like Bayern. But after thinking on it, yeah he doesn't make the most sense culturally.

I've also seen rumors of Flick making a return and wouldn't hate that either. Long term as opposed to that one year rumor floating about.

On Tuchel, almost every player is against him. The performances in the UCL show you that they'll still get up and play for him in the biggest moments out of self pride. But the issue lies in the day-to-day grind of a season. He's already lost them there.

Tuchel will get a lot of the credit if we somehow win the UCL, but I think it also highlights his failures of day-to-day management of a roster that has followed him throughout his career.

What a beating

Leverkusen simply unbelievable

Leverkusen avoid losing like I avoid telemarketers .pic.twitter.com/Th1LMglxIT

— Maximiliano Bretos (@MaxBretosSports) April 27, 2024

Wow! How many times this season have they had an equalizer or winner in the 90' or after?

Depending on next week, this can turn into one of (if not) THE most successful seasons in Bundesliga history with an all DFL UCL Final, Leverkusen potentially winning Europa, Invincible Season for Leverkusen potentially, and a Pokal, and Liepzig with the Supercup.

And guaranteeing 5 teams into the UCL next season.

All of that success and Bayern not win a single trophy.

In reply to Legal Custodian Supposedly it's possible to get 6 slots if Dortmund win UCL but are outside the normal Top 4 spots. The way I understand it, the new extra spots get allocated last after everything else, so Dortmund would get in via their UCL championship and then 6th place would get the extra spot.

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Supposedly it's possible to get 6 slots if Dortmund win UCL but are outside the normal Top 4 spots. The way I understand it, the new extra spots get allocated last after everything else, so Dortmund would get in via their UCL championship and then 6th place would get the extra spot.

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You're just saying that so I'll root for Leipzig the rest of the way

Ralf Ragnick rejects Bayern. What in the world is going on with Bayern management that they are getting rejected? Bayern is one of those places you don't say no to.

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Ralf Ragnick rejects Bayern. What in the world is going on with Bayern management that they are getting rejected? Bayern is one of those places you don't say no to.

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It's probably more a case of Bayern not wanting to give him the levels of control he wanted… especially when so much of the fanbase find him ho-hum as a coach.

That said, the comments Uli Hoeness made recently about Tuchel would give me pause about going there.

And also his bird in hand isn't bad at all. Austria national team is a pretty chill gig… he'd be jumping straight onto a hot seat.

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Ralf Ragnick rejects Bayern. What in the world is going on with Bayern management that they are getting rejected? Bayern is one of those places you don't say no to.

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It's probably more a case of Bayern not wanting to give him the levels of control he wanted… especially when so much of the fanbase find him ho-hum as a coach.

That said, the comments Uli Hoeness made recently about Tuchel would give me pause about going there.

And also his bird in hand isn't bad at all. Austria national team is a pretty chill gig… he'd be jumping straight onto a hot seat.

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maybe. but, that's not the way the tweets from Fabrizio Romano read. it sounds like there was agreement. Bayern extended the official offer and Ralf decided no.


getting turned down by Xabi Alonso, Julian Nagelsmann, and Ragnick in succession is not a good look for Bayern.

No it's not a good look at all. Please, just please don't bring back Tuchel

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No it's not a good look at all. Please, just please don't bring back Tuchel

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the issue with Tuchel is he is not a long term manager. he's a short term winner. but, he will wear out his welcome often because he has no filter when it comes to criticizing players. Not eveyone has to be Carlo but look at the way that Carlo deflects criticism from his guys versus Tuchel who has no problem saying Kim Minjae was not good.

come on Leverkusen. lets keep the dream alive.

Roma gifting the first goal to Leverkusen with a bad mistake.

… and the 2nd goal is an absolute banger from Andrich!

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deadbq03 said:

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Ralf Ragnick rejects Bayern. What in the world is going on with Bayern management that they are getting rejected? Bayern is one of those places you don't say no to.

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It's probably more a case of Bayern not wanting to give him the levels of control he wanted… especially when so much of the fanbase find him ho-hum as a coach.

That said, the comments Uli Hoeness made recently about Tuchel would give me pause about going there.

And also his bird in hand isn't bad at all. Austria national team is a pretty chill gig… he'd be jumping straight onto a hot seat.

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maybe. but, that's not the way the tweets from Fabrizio Romano read. it sounds like there was agreement. Bayern extended the official offer and Ralf decided no.


getting turned down by Xabi Alonso, Julian Nagelsmann, and Ragnick in succession is not a good look for Bayern.

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Yeah I hadn't been on X this morning, so I think you're absolutely right.

Something's in the water. Interesting comments (and a subtle rejection) from Leipzig's coach.

What if your good friend Max Eberl called you?

Marco Rose: "When Max calls, I always answer. Then I ask him how it's going, what things look like at Tegernsee, wish him all the best and hope that we'll see each other again soon. I think FC Bayern are coping quite well without… pic.twitter.com/Tk1xUi6pZz

— Bayern & Germany (@iMiaSanMia) May 2, 2024

In reply to deadbq03 Wow.

Seems like the lowest hanging fruit is to throw everything at Hansi Flick to save as much face as possilble.

Leverkusen with the win 2-0. They will need to win/draw 6 straight to pull off the Super Invincible season (undefeated in all competitions)

2 in Europa League (Roma and winner of Marseille & Atalanta)
1 in Pokal (Kaiserslautern should be easy win)
3 in Bundesliga (6th - Frankfurt, 15th - Bochum, & 8th - Augsburg)

With all these European spots up for grabs and relegation battles, that's a tough schedule to pull it off. I have to think they won't. Surely their luck will run out eventually.

Bayern bosses were astonished by Ralf Rangnick's decision. They did not expect him to reject their offer. During the talks, Bayern fulfilled all of his wishes. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge and Uli Hoeneß, in particular, fought for Rangnick, who was supposed to drive forward an overhaul… pic.twitter.com/HGB6pcqrWV

— Bayern & Germany (@iMiaSanMia) May 2, 2024

From 'well informed agent circles', it is said that Bayern now want to go full force on Benfica head coach Roger Schmidt. The former Leverkusen and Salzburg coach is under contract until 2026 and has a €30m release clause, but Benfica are not entirely happy with him, therefore… pic.twitter.com/ldrimNHs3C

— Bayern & Germany (@iMiaSanMia) May 3, 2024

Um. Ok.

I guess they're going with my half-joke about "just get anyone and go for Klopp next year."

I have a suspicion that a lot of the German-speaking coaches have been comparing notes. Seems like anyone who's already in a good situation doesn't want to deal with the FCB board. Seb Hoeness reiterated his unwillingness to leave Stuttgart yesterday. So that's coaches from 3 out of the top 4 non-Bayern clubs that have publicly said they'd rather stay put. I think the only reason Eden Terzic isn't getting asked by media is because he's on the hot seat himself.