In reply to JCA1

JCA1 said:

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The announcers were talking about it. If I understand it correctly, you can only use a provisional if it's OB/not found. But if you find it in bounds and it's just unplayable, you can't use the provisional and have to go back to the tee. Seems like a rule that could use some tweaking.

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I believe Tiger's penalty was lost ball.

You aren't describing unplayable correctly. If Tiger's ball was unplayable, he had three options. All have a one stroke penalty.

1 - He can hit from previous spot. In this case, Tiger would never do this and give up yards.
2 - He can drop within two club lengths. Again, it's unlikely he would do this. He was way deep in the woods.
3 - Drop the ball anywhere between his unplayable lie and previous spot (in this case tee box).

If it was unplayable, Tiger would take option #3. He gets 250 yards toward the target. And he can drop it in fairway. (somewhere between unplayable and tee box).

In reply to birdman They said they found his ball and it was in bounds but unplayable. Couldn't get a swing on it with a drop within a club length. I agree that it seems like he could be able to take a drop going back on his line, but according to them, he couldn't and had to re-tee. I admittedly don't know the answer.

And it was because they found his ball in bounds that he couldn't play his provisional.

There's multiple people confirming this on X but here's one example.

Tiger hits wide right on 5. Hits provisional. They find his ball, it’s unplayable. He has to go back to tee and hit another. That’s a rule that needs changed. #Masters

— BobbyDo2U (@bobbydo85) April 14, 2024

In reply to Aggie Therapist

Aggie Therapist said:

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Many thanks to aginlakeway for the iconic Masters gnome.

Enjoying this relaxing Sunday morning.

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AginLakeway

In reply to birdman You aren't describing option 3 correctly.

19.2 says your three options are stroke and distance, two club lengths or..."back-on-the-line relief" where the line starts at the hole and passes through where the ball lies, not from where you struck it. If you look at map of Augusta #5 is on the far right side of the property from the perspective of the hole orientation and there are only trees until you reach the edge of the property which is then out of bounds. Draw a line from the hole that passes through where his ball was and you can see he had no option of taking back on the line relief to have a clear shot.

b. Back-on-the-Line Relief
The player may drop the original ball or another ball (see Rule 14.3) behind the spot of the original ball, keeping the spot of the original ball between the hole and the spot where the ball is dropped (with no limit as to how far back the ball may be dropped). The spot on the line where the ball first touches the ground when dropped creates a relief area that is one club-length in any direction from that point, but with these limits:

• Limits on Location of Relief Area:
  
  • Must not be nearer the hole than the spot of the orignal ball, and
  • May be in any area of the course, but
  • Must be in the same area of the course that the ball first touched when dropped.

Unplayable lie also has the unique rule where you can take an unplayable in a bunker and either take 1 shot and drop in the bunker or 2 shots and drop behind the bunker.

Shipley can crush these balls off the tee

impressive

Finau is such a terrible putter.

I guess we are about to see if Homa is going to be a dog.

Dechambeau looks like I've taken his spot

Dechambeau might need to print some new clubs. He's all over the place.

Cmon Colin

In reply to aginlakeway

aginlakeway said:

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Awesome moment with Tiger Woods and Verne Lundquist.

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Also an awesome moment on the practice range with Charlie.

Re: Verne, he was the speaker at my nephew's TLU graduation. Told his story about moving to Dallas and breaking into the business in Dallas for (I believe) Channel 8.

Nice second shot by Xander on the second.

Tony and Jon's final round looks like me trying to play golf.

Brutal play

In reply to Aggie Therapist You could see Tiger chatting with him during their round - very atypical of him. There is a lot to criticize Tiger for but let's give him credit where earned.

Scheffler with a bad shot
About to get entertaining

If Aberg could've made anything inside 6 ft yesterday, he'd be up 3-4

Order of who I want to win:

Homa
Colin
Aberg
Scheffler

Man, kawa let #2 slip by. Can't be letting holes like that go by you and not take advantage of SS struggling.

In reply to Muy

Muy said:

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Order of who I want to win:

Homa
Colin
Aberg
Scheffler

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Agree with this order.

I like that order too

Feels like this could turn into a Scheffler runaway in a couple holes.

Wow, Dechambeau is resilient.

In reply to aggietony2010 I want Scheffler putting on the green jacket this evening.

Bryson finally pulled his head out. 2 birdies and back to even for the day.

I'm good with any of the top four. Bryson needs to stop making birdies.

In reply to Aggie Therapist

Aggie Therapist said:

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I want Scheffler putting on the green jacket this evening.

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I'm fine with it to. I just want drama down the stretch, and for 16-18 to be meaningful instead of a march to a coronation.

In reply to 45-70Ag Yeah, you have to give it to Bryson for sure.

That's the Scottie on the greens we know.