I understand softball doesn't generate money for the athletic program, but why wouldn't a school aggressively pay the best pitcher in the country since they can basically pitch and dominate 90% of the games played? A good example is us this year.
powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
1. It's easy to say with other people's moneyLake08 said:powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Just a guess, but how much NIL does the best softball pitcher make??? $2000? Offer the best pitcher 10k and have a top program.
Lake08 said:powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Just a guess, but how much NIL does the best softball pitcher make??? $2000? Offer the best pitcher 10k and have a top program.
Belton Ag said:Lake08 said:powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Just a guess, but how much NIL does the best softball pitcher make??? $2000? Offer the best pitcher 10k and have a top program.
It depends on the school. This is way under what a championship level pitcher will bring for Oklahoma. I've heard the numbers can get into the 6 figures for them.
Oklahoma's program is funded by the Love family of Love's Truckstop fame. They've basically made that program into a vanity project and are getting great results.
The Loves family didn't really get involved with OU softball until a couple of years ago when OU was looking for large donations to get the new softball complex off the ground.Belton Ag said:Lake08 said:powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Just a guess, but how much NIL does the best softball pitcher make??? $2000? Offer the best pitcher 10k and have a top program.
It depends on the school. This is way under what a championship level pitcher will bring for Oklahoma. I've heard the numbers can get into the 6 figures for them.
Oklahoma's program is funded by the Love family of Love's Truckstop fame. They've basically made that program into a vanity project and are getting great results.
PhatMack19 said:Belton Ag said:Lake08 said:powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Just a guess, but how much NIL does the best softball pitcher make??? $2000? Offer the best pitcher 10k and have a top program.
It depends on the school. This is way under what a championship level pitcher will bring for Oklahoma. I've heard the numbers can get into the 6 figures for them.
Oklahoma's program is funded by the Love family of Love's Truckstop fame. They've basically made that program into a vanity project and are getting great results.
Doesn't an Aggie own Buc-ee's? What's the hold up?
Totally agree!sharpdressedman said:
The best players are very often for sale to the highest bidder from year to year. Teams that are not in the top tier of competition, because they don't have or want to spend big dollars or cannot otherwise attract top talent, will remain non-contenders. Recruiting and retaining elite players has evolved to an auction market.
Legal arguments aside, NIL and unlimited free agency for players is wrecking college sports. JMO
Softball also doesn't generate enough money to pay for itself either. It varies from school to school but I believe men's basketball pays for itself but all other sports are covered by the football revenue.powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
20aggie26 said:Softball also doesn't generate enough money to pay for itself either. It varies from school to school but I believe men's basketball pays for itself but all other sports are covered by the football revenue.powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
It differs at each university. Football obviously carries most sports at Texas A&M.BiochemAg97 said:20aggie26 said:Softball also doesn't generate enough money to pay for itself either. It varies from school to school but I believe men's basketball pays for itself but all other sports are covered by the football revenue.powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Alberts said Volleyball at Nebraska nets $1 million. If they can generate positive cash flow for volleyball, then a lot of sports could potentially come close to break even.
Also NCAA signed a big fat contract for women's basketball tourney. That could really help a lot of teams that are regulars in the post season.
20aggie26 said:It differs at each university. Football obviously carries most sports at Texas A&M.BiochemAg97 said:20aggie26 said:Softball also doesn't generate enough money to pay for itself either. It varies from school to school but I believe men's basketball pays for itself but all other sports are covered by the football revenue.powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Alberts said Volleyball at Nebraska nets $1 million. If they can generate positive cash flow for volleyball, then a lot of sports could potentially come close to break even.
Also NCAA signed a big fat contract for women's basketball tourney. That could really help a lot of teams that are regulars in the post season.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/texas-a-and-m-university-college-station/student-life/sports/
The 22-player women's softball team at Texas A&M College Station is kept in shape by one head coach and 3 assistant coaches. Teammates care for more than softball, too. Their great academic progress rate of 991 is a sign that they spend ample time on their studies as well.
In terms of financials, the Texas A&M College Station women's softball program paid out $3,159,736 in expenses and made $844,235 in total revenue. This is a bit of a downer since it means that the program lost money, $-2,315,501 to be exact.
It's not just softball, look at other sports at A&M and what they cost. They are mostly all in the red. Here is what it costs the university for each student athlete. It was $10.9 million in 2016-17. And each year it goes up.BiochemAg97 said:20aggie26 said:It differs at each university. Football obviously carries most sports at Texas A&M.BiochemAg97 said:20aggie26 said:Softball also doesn't generate enough money to pay for itself either. It varies from school to school but I believe men's basketball pays for itself but all other sports are covered by the football revenue.powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Alberts said Volleyball at Nebraska nets $1 million. If they can generate positive cash flow for volleyball, then a lot of sports could potentially come close to break even.
Also NCAA signed a big fat contract for women's basketball tourney. That could really help a lot of teams that are regulars in the post season.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/texas-a-and-m-university-college-station/student-life/sports/
The 22-player women's softball team at Texas A&M College Station is kept in shape by one head coach and 3 assistant coaches. Teammates care for more than softball, too. Their great academic progress rate of 991 is a sign that they spend ample time on their studies as well.
In terms of financials, the Texas A&M College Station women's softball program paid out $3,159,736 in expenses and made $844,235 in total revenue. This is a bit of a downer since it means that the program lost money, $-2,315,501 to be exact.
Got some ground to make up for sure. Build a fan base and win (regular in the softball CWS), and start to close that gap. With a bigger following, sell more tickets and get more sponsors, close that gap some more.
I don't expect every sport to pay their way, but if every sport increases their revenue, it will close any gaps and grow the pie. But it all starts with winning consistently.
What if it was $100k? Or $300k?Agsncws said:
In some instances, there is a very unsettling sentiment that one can just throw some chump change at an individual and that they'd be willing to uproot their life choices. We're not talking cattle and very few people are willing to base major life decisions based on the highest bidder even if that bid results in as little as a few Starbucks purchases and a Netflix subscription.
If someone offered me $5k a year to go to Texas when I was in school (roughly equivalent of 10K today?), I would have said no. And all I did was study accounting. Its remarkable how little people think of others.
20aggie26 said:It's not just softball, look at other sports at A&M and what they cost. They are mostly all in the red. Here is what it costs the university for each student athlete.BiochemAg97 said:20aggie26 said:It differs at each university. Football obviously carries most sports at Texas A&M.BiochemAg97 said:20aggie26 said:Softball also doesn't generate enough money to pay for itself either. It varies from school to school but I believe men's basketball pays for itself but all other sports are covered by the football revenue.powerbelly said:
Because most people don't give a **** about softball. Anyone can pony up for NIL if they have the funds.
Alberts said Volleyball at Nebraska nets $1 million. If they can generate positive cash flow for volleyball, then a lot of sports could potentially come close to break even.
Also NCAA signed a big fat contract for women's basketball tourney. That could really help a lot of teams that are regulars in the post season.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/texas-a-and-m-university-college-station/student-life/sports/
The 22-player women's softball team at Texas A&M College Station is kept in shape by one head coach and 3 assistant coaches. Teammates care for more than softball, too. Their great academic progress rate of 991 is a sign that they spend ample time on their studies as well.
In terms of financials, the Texas A&M College Station women's softball program paid out $3,159,736 in expenses and made $844,235 in total revenue. This is a bit of a downer since it means that the program lost money, $-2,315,501 to be exact.
Got some ground to make up for sure. Build a fan base and win (regular in the softball CWS), and start to close that gap. With a bigger following, sell more tickets and get more sponsors, close that gap some more.
I don't expect every sport to pay their way, but if every sport increases their revenue, it will close any gaps and grow the pie. But it all starts with winning consistently.
https://12thmanfoundation.com/assets/pdf/cost-of-athletics/funding-student-athlete-scholarships.pdf
I am not for the NIL at all. I fear these kids that are getting it probably don't even know they have to pay taxes on the money. You have to claim the scholarship money each year on taxes too. Throwing money at athletes like that is just setting them up for financial failure. They are going to blow it and not know how to manage money at all. Just bad all the way around.
We encouraged our kid to donate back to A&M because she was fortunate to go there on scholarship and get her degree. Anything former athletes give back to their school is better than nothing.