General EPL Discussion/Housery Thread
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wangus12
7:38a, 4/26/24
In reply to Dre_00
@Fulham is the one I'm really looking at. Everyone suspects Spurs, but Fulham have been good this year
jeffk
7:55a, 4/26/24
In reply to Dre_00
Dre_00 said:

It just takes one fluky game. One. And they don't even have to lose. They just have to not win. I mean if Saudi Arabia can beat Argentina in the group stage of the World Cup that Argentina would go on to win, then City can get tripped up in a fluky game somewhere in the next 5 games. @Spurs and @Fulham are likely the most realistic places where it could happen.

As a wise man once said, "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."


I have to say, it's sort of cruel for a United fan to be propping up the hopes of rival clubs at this point. We're all over here trying to cope with the reality confronting us and you're like "hey! it's all going to turn out okay! Pep is going to send your old dog to a nice retirement ranch upstate where he'll be happy all the time!"
Furlock Bones
9:00a, 4/26/24
In reply to Dre_00
That's the thing. Man Dhabi under Pep doesn't have fluky games at the end of the season.
Mathguy64
9:03a, 4/26/24
That's because being the richest team ever with unlimited funds, they have the deepest team ever. They are 22 deep. That doesn't help in one off games like CL quarters but it does make all the difference in the world in a 38 game league.
Furlock Bones
9:25a, 4/26/24
In reply to Mathguy64
Yup. Tom Rennie can be a bit annoying with his often over the top railing against countries owning clubs. But he's dead on when he says City are the only club in the premier league that can spend $100mm on a guy to sit on the bench and see if he might fit in the squad at some point in the future.
Dre_00
4:39a, 4/28/24
In reply to jeffk
Listen, the last 10+ years have gone so badly for me that the idea of ******* Arsenal winning the league is not only tolerable, it would actually be the one of the best things that has happened in the last 10+ years…except for when Leicester won.

That's where I'm at now Jeff. I'm a broken man. Let me have this semblance of hope to sustain me for the next 10+ years of misery.
Showstopper
8:53a, 4/28/24
So just to recap, in this magical scenario, all we need is Spurs to draw or beat City?


We are doomed.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
9:59a, 4/28/24
When you think of Tottenham…
YNWA.2013
7:31a, 4/29/24
In reply to Dre_00
How many times did we, as Liverpool fans, say this in the last 5-6 years, @jeffk ? Only to lose the title by a point...

Welcome to a title race with Man ****ty.
-FTA c/o 2013
jeffk
7:37a, 4/29/24
In reply to YNWA.2013
Yeah… so many *almost* perfect run-ins.
ChipFTAC01
7:54a, 4/29/24
In reply to jeffk
jeffk said:

Yeah… so many *almost* perfect run-ins.


Hell, wasn't one of them actually perfect (for a long stretch anyways?) and City was just longer and perfecter? Just kept waiting and waiting for them to slip and they just never slipped from January on? I must be thinking of the 97 point season in 18-19?
ChipFTAC01
7:57a, 4/29/24
In reply to ChipFTAC01
ChipFTAC01 said:

jeffk said:

Yeah… so many *almost* perfect run-ins.


Hell, wasn't one of them actually perfect (for a long stretch anyways?) and City was just longer and perfecter? Just kept waiting and waiting for them to slip and they just never slipped from January on? I must be thinking of the 97 point season in 18-19?


Yeah, in 18-19 our only loss of thr season was 1/3 to City. Won every game from March 3 on. And still wasn't enough.
wangus12
8:09a, 4/29/24
Its ridiculous that the margin for error is that you basically cannot drop points for the final 20 games of the season, but when you allow a team to rack up 115 FFP charges and not do anything about it its not surprising. City's depth allows them the ability to rotate and handle the fixture congestion so much better than everyone else. Its been that way for 7-8 years now. Add in some luck as well (Forest missed 3 tap ins yesterday) and its near impossible to stop it
Texaggie7nine
8:42a, 4/29/24
You want to talk about frustration?
Just think, City hasn't lost a match in their last 31 matches with a few draws. YET, in that timeframe they were knocked out of the CL because of a rule change this year.
7nine
jeffk
9:10a, 4/29/24
In reply to Texaggie7nine
boo-****ing-hoo
YNWA.2013
9:11a, 4/29/24
In reply to Texaggie7nine
If you're looking for sympathy for City, I don't think you're going to find it here.
-FTA c/o 2013
wangus12
10:37a, 4/29/24
In reply to Texaggie7nine
Not surprising your upset. We know how much City hate rules
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
10:41a, 4/29/24
jeffk
10:51a, 4/29/24
In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:




of note:

Quote:

Manchester United, Manchester City and Aston Villa voted against the possible introduction of a spending cap on Monday, while Chelsea abstained.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cpegd3dy8j7o
ChipFTAC01
10:57a, 4/29/24
Man you would think that United and Chelsea's American owners would be all about a cap as it protects them from themselves and a runaway market. Basically makes it a sounder financial investment like US franchises.

I can't remember who owns Villa now. The Browns guy sold it a while back.
deadbq03
4:41p, 4/29/24
Ironically, this American CBS article breaks it down better IMO:

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/premier-league-clubs-agree-in-principle-to-spending-cap-ahead-of-junes-annual-general-meeting/

For the TLDR crowd, it's important to note that this doesn't affect transfer spend directly, but rather the amortized version (i.e. a club could spend 100M on a player, but on a 5 year deal, that's only 20M per year). Also, it only counts the "first team" - so teams could skirt this by loaning guys out or putting them on reserve teams.
KCup17
7:53a, 4/30/24
So if these rules go in to effect what happens in the event that a club is discovered to have cheated the rules under an old system? Will they be disciplined in accordance with the new system?
wangus12
8:13a, 4/30/24
In reply to KCup17
I saw a chart yesterday of what the league looks like under the proposed rules. Chelsea were the only team that was over the cutoff number (by like 15-20m). City were just under it. Nobody else was really close to it.
Mathguy64
8:13a, 4/30/24
In reply to KCup17
KCup17 said:

So if these rules go in to effect what happens in the event that a club is discovered to have cheated the rules under an old system? Will they be disciplined in accordance with the new system?
Regardless of who gets caught, Everton will have points deducted.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
10:25a, 5/2/24
The Simpsons have now even successfully predicted soccer. A draw guaranteed league 2 safety for one side and a spot in the promotion playoffs for the other.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1785349248722014208/pl/8ePgDKnSCyjGDHp3.m3u8?tag=16&container=cmaf
jeffk
3:49p, 5/2/24
In reply to Showstopper
Showstopper said:

So just to recap, in this magical scenario, all we need is Spurs to draw or beat City?


We are doomed.



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Ag Since 83
8:32a, 5/4/24
Welcome back to the Tractor Boys!
jeffk
12:28p, 5/4/24
At least City and Arsenal both got relatively soft penalties today.
Mathguy64
12:33p, 5/4/24
Arsenal fan "absolutely a PK for Havertz"

Arsenal fan 3 hours later "how can they give that soft crap to city?"
Faustus
1:09p, 5/4/24
I know it's gauche to like City, and I haven't really settled on a team, but Haaland is a lot of fun to watch.
Forum Troll
1:12p, 5/4/24
My favorite to watch from them is KDB and Rodri. They command the midfield like no other. Haaland is beast though. Vertical leap on that header was nuts.
CrawlingNo5
1:14p, 5/4/24
In reply to Faustus
Faustus said:

I know it's gauche to like City, and I haven't really settled on a team, but Haaland is a lot of fun to watch.


Settle on a team that you enjoy watching. And City is pretty damn enjoyable.
jeffk
1:17p, 5/4/24
In reply to Faustus
Faustus said:

I know it's gauche to like City, and I haven't really settled on a team, but Haaland is a lot of fun to watch.


He was today. There's been times over the past month where he's done an amazing invisible man performance.
59 South
2:16p, 5/4/24
Some proper football hooligan debauchery today at the Brentford Fulham match. I was just a few seats over from the Fulham section and their chants were relentless and I'd get banned from posting any of them. Another beautiful day in west London for a derby, wish the Bees would have pulled it off but an entertaining match nonetheless for a 0-0 draw!



59 South
2:20p, 5/4/24
"You're just a bus stop in Hounslow!" With home side response of "We're just a bus stop in Hounslow!"

And of course… "Iiiiiiiivan Toney you're a wankah!!!!" and "Ivan what are the odds?!?!?"
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