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FYI, I am pulling for Tiger to turn things around on AND off the course more than anyone.

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And yeah he's getting older but guys like Phil and Furyk and Ernie are proving that doesn't really matter.

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Aging is a funny thing that affects different people in different ways. Some folks are injury prone, some aren't. Some people seem to be able to play at a high level in their 40s, some don't. Only time will tell, but I don't see Tiger suddenly becoming a guy who never has injuries.

“Only two things can stop Tiger — injury or a bad marriage.”

Dan Jenkins, 2001

http://www.businessinsider.sg/dan-jenkins-quote-tiger-woods-2014-4/#.U_yM1PldXf4

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An interesting comparison on aging would be Kenny Perry and Vijay Singh. Kenny won quite a bit in the second half of his forties. Kenny was never a fitness freak and not exactly your most athletic looking guy. But he worked at his game and played well in his late 40s.

Vijay often mentioned Kenny as a reason why he thought he would play well in his late 40s, since he spent so much more time on diet and fitness than Kenny. But it never happened.

Vijay was the better golfer in their 30s. Even though he looked more athletic, worked out more often, watched his diet, etc,.........he was superceded by Kenny in his 40s. Go figure.

Jack Nicklaus always said the first thing he started to lose as he got older was his touch on and around the greens vs. the long game. He just didn't have the same feel anymore as the little minute reflexes didn't quite work like they used to. It's counterintuitive because you'd think the body-stressing full swing would go first, but it's been interesting that a big part of Tiger's step back has been the fact he hasn't been a deadly, clutch putter in a long time (not to mention, his chipping game hasn't been as good either). Obviously, the full swing is taking it's toll on Tiger's body as well, but we also can't ignore that age may take it's toll on his short game sooner than we'd think.

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aggiedent... not to make this about VJ... but your comment made me look up VJ's victories on his wiki page...
and it looks like he had 23 victories (1 major) after he was 40 (and it looks like those victories stopped at age 45)
and only 10 wins (but 2 majors)before he was 40...

based based on victories... VJ played his best golf between 40 and 45... (unless we only go by majors, which puts his late 30's at the top)

Tiger is awesome. Get well Tiger!

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This is the umpteenth thread you bring up the same arguments and points in. NO ONE makes as big a deal out of it as you cite they do. YOU do, and are the problem. Thanks GOD.

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It is funny that so many people are unwilling to even consider the notion that part of his problem could be mental...and related to off the course issues. I am not judging him with that comment. I do choose to root for more upstanding people in golf for the most part (KJ Choi, Phil, etc.), but I have never judged Tiger, in the biblical sense. Just about all of us naturally make character judgments every day though, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Consider how mental this game is...I am screwed from the get go if I have had an overly hectic or stressful day sometimes, or if things are weighing on me too heavily. I realize these guys are much stronger in this area, but just about every one of them would be on the verge of a tantrum if someone snapped a shot or made any type of subtle noise just before their swing. We have seen guys basically lose their game due to mental or emotional problems or inner demons.

Tiger was exposed IN PLAIN VIEW IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. His numerous trashy mistresses were plastered all over every form of print or internet media. The sole focus of the sports and gossip media world was on his sexual escapades and broken marriage for quite some time. I think people forget this. You can't possibly convince me that even Tiger would be immune from letting stuff like this impact him mentally. While he has made good runs, he is nowhere near where he used to be. We can blame it all on nagging injuries, or we can use common sense and see it for what it is.

Most of us would be mental wrecks if we had to endure as much mental and emotional trauma, embarrassment, shame, and humiliation as he has had to in front of the whole world. That is the type of stuff many would commit suicide over.

The fact that it was all self-inflicted probably hurts the most too.

I get that many loyal fans don't want to concede this notion, that he is not immune to such problems. Or that some flat out disagree. What is disturbing, however, is when I can tell grown men are literally shaken by any post that is critical of Tiger. To the point that they feel compelled to resort to personal insults. It is disturbing, plain and simple. People should be that defensive over a spouse or something, not their sports idol.

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holy condescending ass batman.

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It is funny that so many people are unwilling to even consider the notion that part of his problem could be mental...and related to off the course issues. I am not judging him with that comment. I do choose to root for more upstanding people in golf for the most part (KJ Choi, Phil, etc.), but I have never judged Tiger, in the biblical sense. Just about all of us naturally make character judgments every day though, and there is nothing wrong with that.

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Please....who has said that Tiger's struggles is not party due to his state of mind? His injuries and people questioning whether he can recapture his past form surely have affected his confidence. That stuff wears on you.

But it's not because he is still beating himself up for destroying his family. That sh.t happened 7 years ago. He's boning Lindsey Vonn. He seems to have an amicable relationship with his ex.

He has moved on. I think it's time for you to do the same. It's not good for your mind to always think about Tiger screwing all those porn stars.

Back on topic...scratch Butch Harmon off the list.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/tiger-woods-wont-be-reuniting-coach-butch-harmon-says-former-coach-butch-harmon

The 'ignore' function of the new TexAgs platform can't get here soon enough.

How many times can the same guy say the same thing?

GFF,

Tiger has won 8 times since he became the biggest piece of **** the planet has ever seen. Granted it took him a few years, whether that was swing change, injuries, mental, infedility, etc...but he has won 8 TIMES, do I need to put that number into perspective to you?

He hasn't learned how to win majors because he's lost confidence mentally and phsyically, in what I believe was do in large part at the 2009 PGA (losing to some guy named Yang).

What an unstable mental headcase

Tiger is awesome. Get well Tiger!

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Tiger is awesome. Get well Tiger!

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As many times as people weep and gnash teeth and resort to personal attacks and pretend that it is all because of nagging injuries and off the course stuff didn't have anything to do with knocking him down from where he was.

This thread is dedicated to Tiger's ongoing issues. I have a theory of when it all started. Back then, many of us predicted that he would never be the same. You disagree, no big deal. Just skip over my posts if it's an issue for you.

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yeah the bad back, bad knees, and lack of faith in the putter BEFORE his dirty laundry got aired had zero to do with his struggles.

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As many times as people weep and gnash teeth and resort to personal attacks and pretend that it is all because of nagging injuries and off the course stuff didn't have anything to do with knocking him down from where he was.

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Are you really this obtuse and pedantic in real life? Would it make you feel better about yourself if everybody came out and said that his wh0ring ways affected his game?

Nobody has said otherwise but you're so condescending and full of yourself that you choose to not see it so you can remain on that moral high horse of yours.

Sorry guys, didn't mean to upset you all. Editing my posts. Having different opinions isn't worth it if it's going to tear us all apart. I'd rather be at peace with you guys and hide my opinions.

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Sorry guys, didn't mean to upset you all. Editing my posts. Having different opinions isn't worth it if it's going to tear us all apart. I'd rather be at peace with you guys and hide my opinions.

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GTFO with your snarky condescension.

You are very type A. One would be a fool to provoke you. I have edited all of my posts out of respect.

I do have a serious question though. Is the YE Yang thing a Texags joke, like "stocker" or "hair? ankles? subway?". Aside from Texags, I have never heard the theories about him setting Tiger off course.

Before YE Yang, Tiger has won every major when he had the lead after the 3rd round. YE Yang stole his mojo and ever since then, Tiger has never been the same.

How do all those NBA players make free throws sleeping with different chicks every night on the road?

I can't stand Tiger, but I'm sick of all the Tiger bashing that pops up on every single thread. If you have something NEW say it, but quit bringing up the same garbage we've all heard.

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How do all those NBA players make free throws sleeping with different chicks every night on the road?

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I don't know, they typically make them even while people move around frantically in plain sight through a glass backboard and it doesn't phase them. Golf is in another ballpark in that regard. A bird chirping can result in an errant shot. Someone's mood or mental well being can easily affect the outcome of their game. A packed house chanting at the top of their lungs usually doesn't affect basketball players. Just a diff game requiring much more hand-eye coordination and concentration, imo.

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Before YE Yang, Tiger has won every major when he had the lead after the 3rd round. YE Yang stole his mojo and ever since then, Tiger has never been the same.

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My apologies, I never knew that. That is my new theory now and makes way more sense.

Did we just become best friends?


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Yang Yong-eun (Korean: 양용은, pronounced [jaŋ joŋ ɯn]; born 15 January 1972), or Y. E. Yang, is a South Korean professional golfer currently playing on the PGA Tour, where he has won twice, including most notably the 2009 PGA Championship where he came from behind to defeat Tiger Woods. He is the only Asian born man to have won a major championship.

Haney today said more practice.

While I agree his preparation this year has been way too sparse, Tiger can't go out and smash balls for 8 hours a day like he did for Haney before.

That's why he's got to get a coach that doesn't require that. He's got to be able to teach via feels, positions, and mental reps. Because that's what Tiger's body can give.

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It is funny that so many people are unwilling to even consider the notion that part of his problem could be mental...and related to off the course issues. I am not judging him with that comment. I do choose to root for more upstanding people in golf for the most part (KJ Choi, Phil, etc.), but I have never judged Tiger, in the biblical sense.

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hahahahahahah.......*takes breath*....hahahahaha

NEWS FLASH: Phil is not an "upstanding individual"

I'm still amazed that a guy who plays golf for a living, and is not personally know by a single person on this board, can elicit a passion in people that resorts to name calling.

Funny thing is Tiger is so big in the golf world that it's about impossible to just have an Official Tiger thread...too much happens with him.

But maybe we should try (high hopes :/ but it would be awesome to see all of our Tiger commentary years down the line) anyone else think we have the ability to keep an official Tiger thread on page Juan here for the foreseeable future??

Your basketball vs golf noise issues are stupid. Noise doesn't bother basketball players b/c it's constant. If they were in a dead silent gym and someone coughed right as they were about to release the ball, then it would bother them the same way it bothers golfers. It has nothing to do with sport being less mentally taxing.

If they played golf with contant noise, then birds chirping, frogs farting, and GodFamilyFriends whining about Tiger wouldn't bother them either.

At the rate this board argues about him, I don't think the thread would ever leave the top 5 spots.

It's not so much about Tiger as it is with God-family-whatever himself. I just get tired of him always saying that same crap whenever Tiger is mentioned. You can start a post about Tiger donating a million dollars to the ALS charity and God-family would find a way to mention that he's only doing so because he feels guilty for destroying his family.

But I guess I'm not helping any by responding and antagonizing him. I'll stop.

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Your basketball vs golf noise issues are stupid. Noise doesn't bother basketball players b/c it's constant. If they were in a dead silent gym and someone coughed right as they were about to release the ball, then it would bother them the same way it bothers golfers. It has nothing to do with sport being less mentally taxing.

If they played golf with contant noise, then birds chirping, frogs farting, and GodFamilyFriends whining about Tiger wouldn't bother them either.

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I respectfully disagree, even though you haven't shown any respect. Not sure if you have even touched a basketball before, but just fyi, landing a round ball through a round hoop is much easier and less demanding (both physically and mentally) than hitting a tour level type perfect shot. Requires much less focus, attention, concentration and hand-eye coordination. It's an insult to the game of golf to put the two actions in the same ball park.

You would see many more errant golf shots and much more frustration on tour if you had crazy crowd noise and rapid movements/gestures by multitudes of fans in the golfers field of vision as he was trying to successfully hit a small ball several hundred yards with precision.

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You can start a post about Tiger donating a million dollars to the ALS charity and God-family would find a way to mention that he's only doing so because he feels guilty for destroying his family.

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Not true, that would be amazing if he did that, and I would give him props. Sounds like something KJ Choi would do. Your perception of me is skewed/exaggerated by your intense loyalty to him, imo. That, or you are just resorting to hyperbole.

It's a moot point though...I have seen the error of my ways and you won't see anymore anti-Tiger posts on here from me as I don't want to ruffle anymore feathers. Our friendship and bond is worth way more to me than the ability to openly express my opinions/theories on here.

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