10:26p, 6/14/23
In reply to jkag89
Perhaps, but let's keep this subject in mind as things roll out. Hopefully, something more "concrete" will emerge.jkag89 said:
Nearly three minutes of talking nonstop without actually saying anything.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
10:10a, 6/15/23
In reply to Aztec1948
You keep saying this but all we get are videos that are the equivalent to a wall of text.
10:29a, 6/15/23
While not dealing with the Vatican, this video discusses some of the "extraordinary" movements of the alleged UFOs recorded by US military aviators. Summary: gimbal system on targeting pods explains this sort of "movement".
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/gimbal-ufo-a-new-analysis.12333/
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/gimbal-ufo-a-new-analysis.12333/
9:21p, 6/16/23
In reply to jkag89
Here is an article on a vehicle crash back in 1933 in Italy.
https://www.wionews.com/world/alien-connection-of-vatican-pentagon-whistleblower-says-church-involved-in-first-ever-ufo-crash-604514
Earth shattering information...perhaps not. None the less it is information, and some may find it interesting. Just trying to keep the topic on the front burner as its important for all of us. Trying to ease the shock I suppose. The shock? It's not that et exists or that they have visited the planet. It's the relationships they have had for many, many years with humanity and the fact that our gov is aware of this and has chosen deception over simply telling the truth.jkag89 said:
You keep saying this but all we get are videos that are the equivalent to a wall of text.
Here is an article on a vehicle crash back in 1933 in Italy.
https://www.wionews.com/world/alien-connection-of-vatican-pentagon-whistleblower-says-church-involved-in-first-ever-ufo-crash-604514
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
9:51p, 6/16/23
In reply to Aztec1948
Is there a single UFO story that you do not take on face value?
9:22a, 6/17/23
Aztec1948 = Spyderman?
Same posting style: just posting a video from an unknown source or site without any explanatory text or support.
Same posting style: just posting a video from an unknown source or site without any explanatory text or support.
4:54p, 6/17/23
In reply to jkag89
Not Vatican related, but here is some testimony of et getting involved with humanity in a beneficial way perhaps? I think "they" are trying to tell us this is a nice planet you occupy, don't destroy it (and yourselves) anymore than you have...
Yes, of course. The above article dealing with the Vatican would be one.jkag89 said:
Is there a single UFO story that you do not take on face value?
Not Vatican related, but here is some testimony of et getting involved with humanity in a beneficial way perhaps? I think "they" are trying to tell us this is a nice planet you occupy, don't destroy it (and yourselves) anymore than you have...
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
11:31p, 6/20/23
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
10:59p, 6/21/23
In reply to jkag89
I wonder if they will reveal some things with this disclosure process? Interesting times..jkag89 said:
The Boring Truth of the Vatican "Secret" Archives
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
1:35p, 6/22/23
In reply to Aztec1948
Like what? Why is it so hard for you to believe that the Vatican Achieves are anything more than what is presented in the linked article? Seriously what is more likely, what was presented in the video you linked or the article?
2:42p, 7/4/23
In reply to jkag89
I forget what was even presented. You can bet the Vatican has stuff buried. Deep. Need to go back I suppose.
Here is a good article on the vehicle recovered back in 1933. In Italy....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mussolini-covered-up-secret-ufo-crash-researcher-claims-in-bombshell-report/ar-AA1doJel?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e088dc3366b54d91b88335a916ffab09&ei=14jkag89 said:
Like what? Why is it so hard for you to believe that the Vatican Achieves are anything more than what is presented in the linked article? Seriously what is more likely, what was presented in the video you linked or the article?
I forget what was even presented. You can bet the Vatican has stuff buried. Deep. Need to go back I suppose.
Here is a good article on the vehicle recovered back in 1933. In Italy....
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
4:12p, 7/4/23
In reply to Aztec1948
Even if I take the article at face value, it does not even mention the Vatican.
10:28p, 7/4/23
In reply to jkag89
No, but at the 1:36 mark of the video, the Vatican and disclosure are mentioned. I only added the article link because Italy is nearby and some believe the Vatican is very much aware of the 1933 event. This is probably part of the Vatican disclosure to happen IMO.jkag89 said:
Even if I take the article at face value, it does not even mention the Vatican.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
12:23a, 7/5/23
Preemptive damage control perhaps? The Vatican knows....
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-extraterrestrials/vatican-scientist-says-belief-in-god-and-aliens-is-ok-idUKL146364620080514
They probably know the full truth but being a controlling entity, they will keep that under wraps.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-extraterrestrials/vatican-scientist-says-belief-in-god-and-aliens-is-ok-idUKL146364620080514
They probably know the full truth but being a controlling entity, they will keep that under wraps.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
6:37a, 7/5/23
In reply to Aztec1948
Aztec1948 said:No, but at the 1:36 mark of the video, the Vatican and disclosure are mentioned. I only added the article link because Italy is nearby and some believe the Vatican is very much aware of the 1933 event. This is probably part of the Vatican disclosure to happen IMO.jkag89 said:
Even if I take the article at face value, it does not even mention the Vatican.
You've pushed this angle before in these threads. I find it fascinating how your mind connects the dots to fit the narrative you've created in your mind.Quote:
Preemptive damage control perhaps? The Vatican knows....
12:18p, 7/7/23
In reply to jkag89
Horses...here is more water:
From the late 2000s to the mid-2010s, I worked as a molecular biologist for a national security contractor in a program to study Exo-Biospheric-Organisms (EBO). I will share with you a lot of information on this subject. Feel free to ask questions or ask for clarification : r/aliens (reddit.com)
Thoughts on the reality?
Just creating an awareness of the reality here. And yes, these are my opinions as described by others WE all have dots, minds and narratives/opinions. Is this not what forums are for?jkag89 said:Aztec1948 said:No, but at the 1:36 mark of the video, the Vatican and disclosure are mentioned. I only added the article link because Italy is nearby and some believe the Vatican is very much aware of the 1933 event. This is probably part of the Vatican disclosure to happen IMO.jkag89 said:
Even if I take the article at face value, it does not even mention the Vatican.You've pushed this angle before in these threads. I find it fascinating how your mind connects the dots to fit the narrative you've created in your mind.Quote:
Preemptive damage control perhaps? The Vatican knows....
Horses...here is more water:
From the late 2000s to the mid-2010s, I worked as a molecular biologist for a national security contractor in a program to study Exo-Biospheric-Organisms (EBO). I will share with you a lot of information on this subject. Feel free to ask questions or ask for clarification : r/aliens (reddit.com)
Thoughts on the reality?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
1:52p, 7/7/23
In reply to Aztec1948
A wall of text from an unsubstantiated source.Quote:
Thoughts on the reality?
11:23p, 7/7/23
ontological shock
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(philosophy) The state of being forced to question one's worldview. [/ol]
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"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
11:29p, 7/7/23
In reply to jkag89
Just trying to help here.
said:A wall of text from an unsubstantiated source.Quote:
Thoughts on the reality?
Just trying to help here.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
8:38a, 7/8/23
In reply to Aztec1948
I'm not going to waste my time watching a two hour video which is likely going to be just word salad. If you are really trying to help, give me a time stamp where the video is about the topic at hand.
12:49p, 7/8/23
In reply to Aztec1948
It's not an ontological shock if anybody has listened to the marginalized voices in both evangelical Christianity (Chuck Missler, etc) and traditional Catholicism (Fr Malachi Martin). The creeping revelations of interaction with UFOs and "aliens" is no surprise to anyone who bothers to reach beyond the mainstream media or various church bureaucracies.
Aztec1948 said:
ontological shock
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ontological shock (countable and uncountable, plural ontological shocks)
[ol](philosophy) The state of being forced to question one's worldview. [/ol]
It's not an ontological shock if anybody has listened to the marginalized voices in both evangelical Christianity (Chuck Missler, etc) and traditional Catholicism (Fr Malachi Martin). The creeping revelations of interaction with UFOs and "aliens" is no surprise to anyone who bothers to reach beyond the mainstream media or various church bureaucracies.
It is better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness- Sir Terence Pratchett
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
2:49p, 7/8/23
In reply to UTExan
It will be when they realize just how off base they were? Religion is a hard thing to shake. But then, that is what et intended. Under their thumb.UTExan said:Aztec1948 said:
ontological shock
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ontological shock (countable and uncountable, plural ontological shocks)
[ol](philosophy) The state of being forced to question one's worldview. [/ol]
It's not an ontological shock if anybody has listened to the marginalized voices in both evangelical Christianity (Chuck Missler, etc) and traditional Catholicism (Fr Malachi Martin). The creeping revelations of interaction with UFOs and "aliens" is no surprise to anyone who bothers to reach beyond the mainstream media or various church bureaucracies.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
12:11a, 7/9/23
In reply to Aztec1948
Actually, it will be the opposite. Jesus' prediction of "as it was in the days of Noah" will likely see the entire world deceived as Nephilim return as "benevolent aliens " with gifts of technology, medical cures, even a form of immortality as bodies regenerate tissue and don't die natural deaths. That may be why, in Revelation, scripture speaks of men begging for rocks to fall on them to hide them from the face of Jesus, who has returned to take possession of the earth.
Aztec1948 said:It will be when they realize just how off base they were? Religion is a hard thing to shake. But then, that is what et intended. Under their thumb.UTExan said:Aztec1948 said:
ontological shock
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ontological shock (countable and uncountable, plural ontological shocks)
[ol](philosophy) The state of being forced to question one's worldview. [/ol]
It's not an ontological shock if anybody has listened to the marginalized voices in both evangelical Christianity (Chuck Missler, etc) and traditional Catholicism (Fr Malachi Martin). The creeping revelations of interaction with UFOs and "aliens" is no surprise to anyone who bothers to reach beyond the mainstream media or various church bureaucracies.
Actually, it will be the opposite. Jesus' prediction of "as it was in the days of Noah" will likely see the entire world deceived as Nephilim return as "benevolent aliens " with gifts of technology, medical cures, even a form of immortality as bodies regenerate tissue and don't die natural deaths. That may be why, in Revelation, scripture speaks of men begging for rocks to fall on them to hide them from the face of Jesus, who has returned to take possession of the earth.
It is better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness- Sir Terence Pratchett
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
8:56p, 7/31/23
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
9:29a, 8/1/23
I've been curious for some time. For those of you that are believers, if info continues to come out, and at some point, the evidence is enough to convince you that UFO's and aliens do exists, how does that affect your faith, if at all?
9:54a, 8/1/23
In reply to Macarthur
Not one bit. I feel like my beliefs are being validated, if any thing.
What you say, Paper Champion? I'm gonna beat you like a dog, a dog, you hear me!
10:10a, 8/1/23
In reply to Robert L. Peters
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why it would strengthen your faith?
10:21a, 8/1/23
In reply to Macarthur
Absolutely neutral. I have viewed ETs as anti-human enemies for a while because of abduction stories and the research of Dr. John Mack, Chief of Psychiatry at Harvard. I don't absolutely discount the possibility of aliens, but their existence would be less relevant to my faith in general than my dogs and cats. The crux of their importance lies in their perception of Jesus Christ.
It is better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness- Sir Terence Pratchett
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
“ III stooges si viveret et nos omnes ad quos etiam probabile est mittent custard pies”
10:36a, 8/1/23
In reply to Macarthur
As society continues to devolve into immoral chaos, governments and media have to cook up the next big "thing" to engage the citizenry and distract from their destructive policies.
I've also noticed that unbelievers and leftists tend to race towards this UFO idiocy. I think it will be the next big thing after people finally discover the climate change industry is a scam.
Thus, people tend to pray harder and grow closer to God when the world is falling apart.
I feel the same as Green Dragon.Macarthur said:
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why it would strengthen your faith?
As society continues to devolve into immoral chaos, governments and media have to cook up the next big "thing" to engage the citizenry and distract from their destructive policies.
I've also noticed that unbelievers and leftists tend to race towards this UFO idiocy. I think it will be the next big thing after people finally discover the climate change industry is a scam.
Thus, people tend to pray harder and grow closer to God when the world is falling apart.
11:53a, 8/1/23
In reply to Bird Poo
In summary . .
MacArthur: How would extra terrestrial life affect your faith?
Bird Poo: It would make it stronger, because $#% liberals!
Good talk.
Bird Poo said:I feel the same as Green Dragon.Macarthur said:
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why it would strengthen your faith?
As society continues to devolve into immoral chaos, governments and media have to cook up the next big "thing" to engage the citizenry and distract from their destructive policies.
I've also noticed that unbelievers and leftists tend to race towards this UFO idiocy. I think it will be the next big thing after people finally discover the climate change industry is a scam.
Thus, people tend to pray harder and grow closer to God when the world is falling apart.
In summary . .
MacArthur: How would extra terrestrial life affect your faith?
Bird Poo: It would make it stronger, because $#% liberals!
Good talk.