shack009 said:
I saw something that was similar.
Dallas gets Turner
Indiana gets Ayton and Javale
Phoenix gets THJ, Theiss, and TJ McConnell
Kyrie just makes no sense on Phoenix unless they are dealing Beal.
I don't know why Indiana does that. I'd rather have Myles Turner than Ayton. Legit shot blocker, 3-pt threat. Better scorer. Way more versatileHawthornAggie said:
Saw this proposed 3 team trade on First Things First.
Phoenix gets Kyrie
Indiana gets Ayton
Dallas get Myles Turner and Buddy Hield
No reports on these teams even talking to each other but that'd be a sick haul for Dallas.
He also signed an extension a couple months ago.shack009 said:
I agree, strictly in terms of basketball. But Turner has been in trade rumors for years and has been linked to Dallas before. He may want out of there and/or they may not want him. I have no idea...
HawthornAggie said:
Saw this proposed 3 team trade on First Things First.
Phoenix gets Kyrie
Indiana gets Ayton
Dallas get Myles Turner and Buddy Hield
No reports on these teams even talking to each other but that'd be a sick haul for Dallas.
MarcAg said:HawthornAggie said:
Saw this proposed 3 team trade on First Things First.
Phoenix gets Kyrie
Indiana gets Ayton
Dallas get Myles Turner and Buddy Hield
No reports on these teams even talking to each other but that'd be a sick haul for Dallas.
Can't be done. Suns can't acquire anyone via a sign and trade because of how much money they already have on the books.
yes, BS is falling off quick. He's been so ****ing lazy lately. Even the nba pod hosts with like 11 follows know the basics of the new CBA and aprons at this point.M.C. Swag said:
1) It's a stupid trade the Mavs would never do unless the Sixers are including assets. Like, why would the Mavs HELP facilitate a trade for a worse player on a 1 year deal? "Because otherwise they lose Kyrie for nothing"....no, if Kyrie wants his money, he's signing with the Mavs. Period. Unless he's so anti-capitalist that he'd actually sign for the MLE, then honestly....good for him. I'd rather have cap space than James Harden.
2) Simmons is completely oblivious to the cap. Teams that receive a Sign and Traded player are hardcapped at the first apron ($172m). This needs to tattooed on every person in this forum who suggest a SnT idea or is worried about a SnT possibility lol.
The Sixers are currently at $194m payroll with cap holds. Assuming Kyrie gets the max and the Mavs are willing to trade him to Philly, that means Kyrie's 1st year salary is $47m. The Sixers would need to 1) shed enough salary to get below the apron AND acquire Kyrie. Which means getting rid of $69m worth of salary. 2) Even if they did that (which they could), they couldn't acquire any other players for anything more than the vet min.
tl;dr - Simmons is coasting and has no idea what he's talking about. His podcast is simply drama for drama's sake. He has no insight, analysis, or ideas.
I'm not about to try to attach any sort of logic to anything Kyrie Irving says or does. If he wants to go somewhere and thinks he has a better chance to win or be the primary ball handler, then maybe he does that.M.C. Swag said:
They're at 157 if they renounce all their cap holds. Dallas is comfortable offering Kyrie $40m/yr. Why would he leverage his way out of Dallas for anything less than the full max if he has a $40m offer? It makes no sense. And it makes less sense that Dallas would feel any sort of obligation to ASSIST in his exit.
In his draft recap, he thought Lively was like Christian Wood. It was super cringey.zgolfz85 said:yes, BS is falling off quick. He's been so ****ing lazy lately. Even the nba pod hosts with like 11 follows know the basics of the new CBA and aprons at this point.M.C. Swag said:
1) It's a stupid trade the Mavs would never do unless the Sixers are including assets. Like, why would the Mavs HELP facilitate a trade for a worse player on a 1 year deal? "Because otherwise they lose Kyrie for nothing"....no, if Kyrie wants his money, he's signing with the Mavs. Period. Unless he's so anti-capitalist that he'd actually sign for the MLE, then honestly....good for him. I'd rather have cap space than James Harden.
2) Simmons is completely oblivious to the cap. Teams that receive a Sign and Traded player are hardcapped at the first apron ($172m). This needs to tattooed on every person in this forum who suggest a SnT idea or is worried about a SnT possibility lol.
The Sixers are currently at $194m payroll with cap holds. Assuming Kyrie gets the max and the Mavs are willing to trade him to Philly, that means Kyrie's 1st year salary is $47m. The Sixers would need to 1) shed enough salary to get below the apron AND acquire Kyrie. Which means getting rid of $69m worth of salary. 2) Even if they did that (which they could), they couldn't acquire any other players for anything more than the vet min.
tl;dr - Simmons is coasting and has no idea what he's talking about. His podcast is simply drama for drama's sake. He has no insight, analysis, or ideas.
I said they 'could' in my post above. But no one seems to acknowledge the insane amount of cap restriction they'd put themselves in by doing so.Guitarsoup said:I'm not about to try to attach any sort of logic to anything Kyrie Irving says or does. If he wants to go somewhere and thinks he has a better chance to win or be the primary ball handler, then maybe he does that.M.C. Swag said:
They're at 157 if they renounce all their cap holds. Dallas is comfortable offering Kyrie $40m/yr. Why would he leverage his way out of Dallas for anything less than the full max if he has a $40m offer? It makes no sense. And it makes less sense that Dallas would feel any sort of obligation to ASSIST in his exit.
Agree Dallas doesn't have to play ball. And Philly only has Swaps to use until 2029, because their odd picks are already traded. But if Philly really wanted him and Dallas didn't want Harden, you could do like Melton+Tobias+24/26/28 swaps and the 29 first, or bring in a 3rd team. I assume Maxey is off the table for them.
But Philly could definitely work within the hard cap scenario if they really wanted.
This would end my Mavs loveshack009 said:
I would hate myself so much if Harden were on the Mavs.
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